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Possible Media Blackout on Russian UFO Sighting?(crash filmed)
paranormalnews.com ^ | april-21-2003 | Written By: James L. Choron

Posted on 04/23/2003 2:50:56 PM PDT by green team 1999

Possible Media Blackout on Russian UFO Sighting?

Written By: James L. Choron Posted: 4/21/2003

From: James L. Choron [mailto:kommissar@mtu-net.ru] Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:25 AM To: Milo Subject: URGENT... URGENT... URGENT... POST TO ALL POSSIBLE POINTS

Milo, Read this thoroughly, every word is true. Pass this along to any and all points possible. This story is going to be seriously covered up in the States... I repeat... read this thoroughly. I do not have the slightest idea what this was, my assumption is that it is NOT extraplanetary in origin... This is the copy-ready story on the initial, very early reports, as I am releasing it to all of my mainstream sources.

I am trying to get still photos, at the moment, but am told that it will be several days before they become available, as an analysis is being run on all known photos, to try and determine the nature of this craft.

I will send you what I get, as soon as they become available. My sources say that I will, in fact, be getting some very good prints, however, this needs to get out, now, as we are already aware of a black-out being thrown up by "western media".

Contacts at CNN and Reuters have confirmed, to me, privately, that they have been "ordered" to ignore this story and not release anything related to it. Likewise, the local "foreign language press" is releasing it locally, but are not given access to the wire on this story.

Moscow Tribune has tried, repeatedly to access it’s AP wire, on this, but the story is rejected. I assume that others are encountering the same problem, but "Independnt Media", which owns the other two "foreign language" papers, and substantial interest in "Pravda" and "Pravda.ru", are refusing to answer questions, or denying knowledge of the incident, alternately... this is strange, since it is literally all over the television, and has been for two days, now.

I am compiling a videotape of all local news coverage... Please post both my email and site address, along with this introductory note, as I will be glad to privately email information to any possible distribution point. They may contact me personally, or through the site.

At times I encounter server difficulties, due to the quality of my line, so it is best to put up both contact points.I will point out that, given the information above, I have serious doubts as to whether or not this craft is, in fact, of "extraplanetary" origin.

The word "Aroura" comes instantly to mind. Jim UFO CRASHES IN RUSSIAN HARBOR IN SIGHT OF BALTIC FLEET ENTIRE CITY WATCHES

by James L. Choron kommissar@mtu-net.ru www.wintersteel.com KLININGRAD, RUSSIA (Friday, April 18, 2003) The entire Russian Baltic Fleet and a larg number or residents of Kaliningrad (formerly Koenigsburg), a city of over 3 million inhabitants, in the Russian Baltic enclave on the Baltic Sea, watched in awe as a "flying wing" shaped Unidentified Flying Object winged over rapidly and plunged into Kaliningrad Harbour at approximately 6:17 pm. Local Time.

The event was caught on videotape by a local RTR Russian State Television news crew, which was present on the massive naval base, filming a documentary segment on the fleet for airing on Russian television. The Unidentified Flying Object, described as a "Flying Wing", with two enlongated, dome like protrusions on top, and three similar structures, underneath, was overflying the Baltic Fleet, which lay at anchor in Kaliningrad Harbour.

According to a Russian Naval Commander, who wishes to remain annomyous, the craft was apparently caught, accidently, withing the sweep patterns of ship mounted search radars, which came on to track it’s progress, causing some sort of malfunction which resulted in the crash.

"It was traveling at a tremendous rate of speed" he said to RTR reporters, on the scene. "It was very low, not more than 1,500 meters (approximately 5,000 feet) above the surface of the water.

When our radars came on, it simply winged over, and dove into the water, as if it has lost either power, or control".

The light gray colord craft, with no apparent "seams" or rivet patterns visible, was estimated by onlookers to be approximately the size of a small airliner, or light transport aircraft, and traveling at speeds in excess of Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound), was absoltely quiet as it passed, but made a "trememdous noise" as it plunged into the water, causing a geyser of steam and water, mixed with small debris, which shot an extimated 500 meters (1500 feet) into the air.

"It appeared" one witness, a civilian onlooker, said, "that whoever, or whatever was in control of the craft made a deliberate effort to take it away from the naval ships and the shoreline before it went into the harbor".

One Sovremini Class Destroyer was lightly damaged by flying debris, but, so far, no casualties have been reported. Radiation levels at the site, are high, but the source of the radiation, as well as it’s nature, have yet to be determined.

Russian authorities, from the Ministry of Health, are qick to point out that the radiation levels are not dangerous, simply "higher than normal".

So far, debris recovered have been small, averaging less than a meter (just over three feet) in diameter, at the largest. Most debris recovered, to date, have been what appear to be "skin material" of an unknown alloy, and interior bracing and piping, composed of a very high grade and extremely pure aluminum.

All metal debris have been dispatched to various institutes and universities for analysis, including the prestiegous Bauman Institute of Engineering, in Moscow, and the Moscow State University School of Metalurgy.

Owing to the spped at which the object was traveling, it is considered highly doubtful that any significant remains of crew, if, in fact, the vehicle was piloted, will be recovered.

"This looks like your basic ’hair, teeth and eyeballs’ situation, one Russian Navy diver said, somewhat grimly. It is interesting to note that, in spite of the high spped at which the craft was traveling, and it’s extremely low altitude, there was no characteristic "sonic boom" associated with it’s approach, and no noticable vibration on the ground.

This has led many observers, especially those associated with the Russian military establishment to speculate that the propulsion system of the craft was based on some sort of "anti-gravity" device.

"Whatever it was", said one Russian Naval Captain, "it was certainly not one of our craft, and I am also not aware of anything of this sort being present in the West". The immediate area of the crash will be dredged, as soon as a Naval dredge, also attached to the Baltic Fleet, but currently on assignment several hours away, can be brought into position.

Dredging operations are expected to becin within the next two to three days, at the latest. The entire episode is noteworthy in that it was not only captured on videotape by an RTR newscrew, but was instantly aired, not only on RTR, but on all major Russian Network television, via a live feed from the RTR crew, in Kaliningrad.

Updates have followed on each regular news broadcast, since the initial downing. Russian Government officials are quick to point out that the downing was, in fact, accidental, and not a "shoot down".

Kaliningrad police have cordoned off a two block section of waterfront, near the crash site in order to facilitate the arival and departure of heavy transport and emergency vehicles and the support facilities necessary for divers who are working in the area. Water temperatures are still extremely low, in the baltic, and special equipment has been brought in.

Divers, however, report that the water in the vacinity of the crash is, in fact, noticably, several degrees warmer than normal.

The water surrounding the crash site is, understandably, reported to be "murky" with extremely poor visibillity. This leads many of the divers and supervisory personnel to speculate that at least one relatively large fragment might exist.

Wintersteel enjoys a very good relationship with the Russian Navy, as well as with the mainstream Russian media, and will be posting photographs of the site, and debris recovered, as soon as they become available.

We will also be following updates on the situation, and will post such as become available to our site, at www.wintersteel.com, as well as including them in our newsletter, and in any suplamentary material that may become necessary to distribute.

*Due to the sensitive nature of the ongoing investigation, names of all quoted witnesses are being omitted, at the request of the interviewed parties, and, in the case of serving military personnel, at the request of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The Russian Ministry of Defense assures WihterSteel, and all other media outlets, that a full disclosure of the names of witnesses, examining experts and vessels involved, will be made as soon as recovery operations are complete.

*Ongoing television and radio coverage of this incident is continuing, as of this writing (5:20 pm Moscow Standard Time, 19 April, 2003.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aurora; crash; mediablackout; russia; spycraft; ufos; xfiles
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question -did a spy craft from the us crashed?,news people were filming,and showed on russian tv,and divers are going to dig it up,
1 posted on 04/23/2003 2:50:56 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
Minus any corroborating information, I'd guess this is a hoax. Sounds like nonsense to me.
2 posted on 04/23/2003 2:53:20 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: green team 1999
>"Milo, Read this thoroughly, every word is true."

I'm having trouble
getting past this first sentence...
I'll go try again...

3 posted on 04/23/2003 2:53:34 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: green team 1999
Tinfoilpalooza
4 posted on 04/23/2003 2:54:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: green team 1999
The word "Aroura" comes instantly to mind whenever I wonder about this guy's credibility.
5 posted on 04/23/2003 2:55:46 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: green team 1999

6 posted on 04/23/2003 2:56:03 PM PDT by jbstrick (Behold the Power of CHEESE!)
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To: green team 1999
Milo, Read this thoroughly, every word is true. Pass this along to any and all points possible.

Funny how this begins with BOTH of the two dead giveaways that a spam email is a hoax. Gee, I wonder if the same applies here.

7 posted on 04/23/2003 2:59:37 PM PDT by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. :-)
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To: MineralMan
The light gray colord craft, with no apparent "seams" or rivet patterns visible, was estimated by onlookers to be approximately the size of a small airliner, or light transport aircraft, and traveling at speeds in excess of Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound)

I would not expect to see seams or rivet patterns on an aircraft flying at mach 2. Sounds like a hoax to me.

8 posted on 04/23/2003 3:00:18 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: green team 1999
did a spy craft from the us crashed?,

This was as reported by Art Bell. Too many questions rolled up into one.

(1) Was it a spy craft?
(2) Was it American?
(3) Did it crash?


The obvious answer to all 3 guesses is no. But we might ask if it is a terrestrial craft owned by time travellers from our future spotted entering one of the side entrances to their secret underwater base, said base being the entirety of the hollow inner earth.
9 posted on 04/23/2003 3:02:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: green team 1999
Sounds very similar to the Shag Harbour UFO story:

The Shag Harbour UFO
with the help of http://www.renaissoft.com/ufocanada/shag.htm

The story goes like this:
On the night of October 4, 1967, shortly after 11:00 PM, a UFO some 60 feet in diameter was seen to hover over the water near the tiny fishing village of Shag Harbour, Nova Scotia. The UFO, which displayed four bright lights that flashed in sequence, tilted to a 45-degree angle and descended rapidly towards the water's surface. Upon impact, there was a bright flash and an explosive roar. Concerned witnesses began calling the nearby Barrington Passage RCMP detachment. None of those witnesses mentioned anything about a UFO. Most believed that a large aircraft had ditched into the harbour and that there might be survivors.

Eventually, three RCMP officers arrived at the shore near the impact site. Corporal V. Werbicki and Constable Ron O'Brien, dispatched from the Barrington Passage Detachment, were approaching from east of the site. Constable Ron Pond, who was on highway patrol on Highway #3, was heading towards Shag Harbour from a position west of the impact site, and his position allowed him to view the UFO while it was still in flight. The unusual lighting configuration and flight characteristics tipped Cst. Pond off to the unusual nature of the object long before he heard from Cpl. Werbicki, who received his information through the initial complaints to the detachment.

When all three officers met at the impact site they found that the UFO was still floating on the water about a half-mile from shore. It was glowing a pale yellow and was leaving a trail of dense yellow foam as it drifted in the ebb tide. Neither the Rescue Co-ordination Centre in Halifax nor the nearby NORAD radar facility at Baccaro, Nova Scotia, had any knowledge of missing aircraft, either civilian or military. Cst. Pond reported that the object had "changed" during its descent to the water's surface, i.e., it changed shape, and that it appeared to be "no known object." Later, other local witnesses described much the same details as those of Cst. Pond. Also, a coast guard lifeboat from nearby Clark's Harbour and several local fishing boats were summoned to investigate, but the UFO had submerged before they reached the site. The sulfurous-smelling yellow foam continued to well to the surface from the point where the UFO went down, and a 120 by 300 foot slick developed. Search efforts continued until 3:00 AM and then resumed at first light the next day. Everybody involved was convinced that "something" -- that is, something real and unidentified -- had gone into the water.

The next morning a preliminary report was sent to Canadian Forces Headquarters in Ottawa. After communicating with NORAD, Maritime Command was asked to conduct an underwater search ASAP for the object responsible for the concern in Shag Harbour. Seven navy divers from the HMCS Granby searched throughout the daylight hours until sundown of 08 October 1967. On Monday, 09 October 1967, Maritime Command canceled the search effort claiming "nil results." Outside of the local area, media attention quickly faded.



10 posted on 04/23/2003 3:04:50 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Iran/ Syria = Gulf War III)
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To: newgeezer
Is this the same guy that wrote this:

So, you want to be a “Ghost Hunter”?
by Lt. Col. James L. Choron

So, you are new at this. Well, everybody starts somewhere. You want answers? You’re looking for an “expert” to teach you how to “hunt ghosts”? Well, I have some very bad news for you. In the field of Paranormal Investigation (We’re much more than “Ghost Hunters”), there simply is no such thing as an expert. True, there are people who have been involved in the field for a long time, and all of them have techniques that they use, because they have found them to be effective, still, we are all learning. Paranormal Investigation is nothing like what you have seen on television, or in the movies. It is a learning process. While we all hope for the day in which it will be an exact science, and accepted as such, that day is not yet, and is most likely a long way off. At the moment, we are still faced with the “Art of the Possible”. It is people like you, who are just now entering the field… who will take the knowledge and experience of those who have gone before you, and help to transform our pursuit into what it should become, a science. Perhaps this will not come in any of our lifetimes, but it will come, and each of us will make some small contribution to that coming (...goes on...)

http://www.paranormalresearchonline.com/articles_06.html
11 posted on 04/23/2003 3:09:23 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (God bless the coalition troops and their families)
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To: green team 1999
it was not only captured on videotape by an RTR newscrew, but was instantly aired, not only on RTR, but on all major Russian Network television, via a live feed from the RTR crew, in Kaliningrad.

No one watching had a Snappy hooked up?

12 posted on 04/23/2003 3:31:39 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: green team 1999
The light gray colord craft

Hmmm ... same color as duct tape ...

13 posted on 04/23/2003 3:32:39 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: green team 1999
Here's something that vaguely fits the description:

X-47A Pegasus experimental UAV

Operational Concept For Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle Unveiled

14 posted on 04/23/2003 3:58:08 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: MineralMan

burned out alien body!
is this how the crew looks like?
15 posted on 04/23/2003 4:00:25 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Pro-Bush
how many roswells incidents since 1947,have been covered by the us govnmt?
16 posted on 04/23/2003 4:03:16 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
According to a Russian Naval Commander ... the craft was apparently caught, accidently, withing (?) the sweep patterns of ship mounted search radars, which came on to track it’s progress, causing some sort of malfunction which resulted in the crash.

Doubtful, comrade, HIGHLY doubtful.

Also - which 'type' of RADAR was active: a 'tracking RADAR' or a 'search RADAR'? There *two* operate, 'sweep' (literally: sweep the skies) and 'view targets' entirely differently ...

17 posted on 04/23/2003 4:04:06 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: _Jim
they were playing with radars at roswell too
18 posted on 04/23/2003 4:05:59 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Brett66
that X-47 looks scary,all dark.
19 posted on 04/23/2003 4:07:09 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
they were playing with radars at roswell too

Do you think all RADARS are created equal, operate at the same frequency, use the PRF (Pulse Repitition Frequency) and have the same PW (Pulse Width) and have the same peak power?

20 posted on 04/23/2003 4:16:33 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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