San Fransisco and the general Welfare system.

[diamond19]

In my social problems class my professor seems at times to be a communist, sometimes a socialist, and other just liberal. He never gives a conservative point of view, and the more he does this the further conservative I become, in the sense I feel obliged to argue the other side. In class recently the discussion was on Family and myths in America. One of many examples (some of which were accurate) came the brief discussion on welafre. Basically it was in his opinion (of course not fact) that welfare doesn't lead to damn near anything bad. The conventional wisdom and "correction" was 'illegitimacy does not increase among welfare recepients, in fact it decreases over time'. I was okay with this but I do remember hearing discussion not only on O'Reilly but also this messageboard about San Fransisco being a.) in debt b.) having most homeless on the street, thus leading one to believe welfare is the root cause of this. Are there any statistics, articles, facts that support this argument? I really would like to take something to class to counteract his liberal teachings.

[Auntie Mame]

It's COMMON SENSE!

If you subsidize something, you're going to get more of it.

Sheesh!

There are these birds in, I think it's Washington. People started feeding them. They got too fat to fly South for the winter.

Take a look at the statistics of, say, babies born out of wedlock before Lyndon Johnson's Great Society when welfare as we know it today was born, basically subsidizing unwed motherhood, and after. Babies born out of wedlock have skyrocketed!

This is not rocket science. Your professor is up there telling you black is white and you are sitting there nodding your head and saying, "Yes, it is."

[El Sordo]

You two should sit down and talk.

[Ben Bolt]

The odds are against you in the area of teaching a liberal a single thing . When folks think with the heart instead of the brain .. and so it goes .

What I used to do is to turn the debate into something along the lines of economics or the morality of people who take and take .

The object is not to teach the teacher because he is most likely beyond salvage . The mission is to teach a fellow student . Consider it a public service & have some fun with it !

[I_Love_My_Husband]

We Want Change

I think they have statistics there

[elbucko]

The problem with welfare is that it enables a woman to raise children without a father. A mother can raise babies to boys and girls, but it takes the influence of a "Good Father" to help turn these boys and girls into men and women.

The best metaphor I know uses Eagles as an example. If the female and her babies were hand fed, the "Eaglets" would not learn to fly. The mother Eagle can fly, but why should she bother? Why bother to teach the young to fly?

The importance of fatherhood that has been lost on a generation of social scientists is beginning to be rediscovered. The majority of teenage gang violence is a result of the absence of a "Benevolent Male Authority Figure".

The more welfare, the more gang warfare. The more welfare, the more illegitimacy. The more illegitimacy, the more gangs and gang violence. The socialists have the social equation backwards. It's not poverty that causes crime, it's crime that causes poverty.