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DUBOB 11- more tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast...
various links and websites | 01-31-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 01/31/2003 5:07:21 PM PST by backhoe

At the request of members, I am restarting those "Tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast"-- the stories and issues that the press and media either ignore, won't even talk about, or will mention once and forevermore claim "it's old news..."

Naturally, some will be stories which interest me, or things I think we all need to be aware of.

I am experimenting with a minor change in presentation- when I can, I will cut to

-GoogleNewsBeta--

with a keyword or two and see what kind of links to "mainstream" stories I can find in contrast to what we see here and on other sites.

May I remind you of a couple of points to bear in mind?
Each link usually has many other links within- follow them all to get "the rest of the story."
Don't forget the "open multiple browsers" trick with control-n -- this allows you to hold your place with one, and use the others to follow links, run searches, etc.

Rather than go back and rehash old links, I'll give you links to the original posts here:

-DUBOB 10- the *best of* the Dark Underbelly Series--

-DUBOB 9-- even *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast..... --

DUBOB 8-- still *more* tales from the Underbelly***

DUBOB 7-- even *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast.....

DUBOB 6-- yet *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast.....

DUBOB 5-- even *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast.....

DUBOB IV- yet more Tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast-

DUBOB III -- "Tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast"

DUBOB 2-- more tales from The Dark Underbelly of the Beast-- thread II

-The Dark Underbelly of the Beast- Stories the Media won't Discuss...--


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S-CHIP and The Democrats’ Human Shield Campaign
 
Sink the SCHIP: Get Rid of Health Insurance (Well, Most of It)
 
Pelosi’s Most Dangerous Ploy
 
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American Cancer Society--"What about principle that not-for-profit groups have to be non-partisan?"

Hillary's shills still run the IRS (with Pres. Bush's approval)
and with her FBI files (with Pres. Bush's approval), she continues to get what she wants.

 
From the ever-active racial grievance pimps:
‘America is readier to elect a white woman than it is a black man’
 
Founder's Quotes - Benjamin Franklin on Children
 
LA Officials Authorize Homeless “Squatters’ Rights”
 
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How to Win a Nobel Peace Prize (Al Gore did it--you can too. Here's three ways to win it)
 
Jewish Pundit Defends Ann Coulter
 
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AN UNGUARDED MOMENT ...--how Democrats view the South .. You are ignorant and dirty. Disease ridden, in fact.

7,721 posted on 10/15/2007 7:40:06 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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S-CHIP and the Democrats’ human shield campaign

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 15, 2007 09:28 AM

humanshield004.jpg

If you thought for a moment that Harry Reid and the Democrats might have obtained some wisdom and maturity over the weekend and put down their child-sized human shields, think again. The presidential veto override vote on the S-CHIP entitlement expansion is set for Thursday. Though they admit they probably don’t have the votes, Democrats are already crowing about this “defining moment.” They have vowed to introduce yet another bill if their override fails. Meanwhile, their universal health care minions continue to inundate the airwaves with noxious “Bush vs. the children” ads. Hollyweirdos are cursing their heads off at critics of the massive government expansion. And the questionable poster parents hand-picked by Harry Reid are keeping their child on center stage.

Liberal blogger Jeralyn Merritt writes on her blog that young Graeme Frost is scheduled to appear tonight on King of Cable TV Moonbats Keith Olbermann’s MSNBC show.

That is just unspeakably sad.

Yet, instead of standing up to Harry Reid’s crass human shield campaign and calling out the poster child-abusing adults hiding behind grade-schoolers to defend their socialized health care Trojan Horse, some Beltway Republicans have grown queasy and are sighing to the NYTimes about “partisan bickering” over the $35 billion public health expansion.

If Republicans don’t have the stomach to do battle over fundamental policy questions–like, you know, who deserves government-subsidized health insurance– what are they doing in office? More “partisan bickering” could have spared us McCain-Feingold, No Child Left Behind, and the hugetastic Medicare expansion boondoogle. If not for “partisan bickering,” shamnesty would be the law(lessness) of the land.

We need more “partisan bickering,” not less.

***

This just in…Harry Reid’s favorability ratings are now lower than President Bush’s in Nevada among most likely voters. Order up some more human shields!

***

Darleen Click notes the Frost parents’ apparent change of heart on parading their children in public and wonders: Where are the adults in the Left?

As for the mindless mantra that we’re attacking a child, attacking a child, attacking a child, attacking a child, attacking a child, I challenged the lefties to quote a single instance on my blog of a single negative, ad hominem word I’ve written attacking the Frost children. The response? Nothing.

Amy Ridenour gets to the heart of the matter at hand:

What’s regrettable about the SCHIP debate is not that the Frost family received national attention after seeking it out, but that so many important parts of the debate are being glossed over. Nothing in the Reid-cum-Frost radio presentation, for instance, mentioned that the Reid-Pelosi $35 billion SCHIP expansion plan is underfunded.

The big-spending expansion proponents urge Congress to adopt a 61 cents per pack cigarette tax increase to pay for expansion. But as Michelle C. Bucci and William W. Beach of the Heritage Foundation have pointed out, there aren’t enough smokers to pay the SCHIP expansion tab. Bucci and Beach say new tobacco tax funds may be sufficient for no more than two years’ worth of the expansion, and certainly not much more. What will Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi do then? Start running public service announcements asking people to take up smoking, because the Frost family needs help?

…Another inconvenient truth left out of the Reid-Frost presentation is the bitter little fact that whatever funding a tobacco tax increase provides will be highly regressive — even as the SCHIP expansion makes that program less regressive. As David Hogberg in his paper “SCHIP Expansion: Socialized Medicine on the Installment Plan” for the National Center for Public Policy Research pointed out, if the expansion plan is adopted, “it is not inconceivable that a parent with one child with an income of $13,690 will be funding benefits for two children in a family of four with an income of $82,600.”

12-year-old Graeme Frost probably doesn’t know the SCHIP expansion he’s fronting for would tax the poor to fund the middle class. What’s Harry Reid’s excuse?

Ernest Istook looks at the left-wing groups propping up their kiddie human shields for the Dems:

Americans United for Change (AUC), MoveOn.org, and the Service Employees International Union (which claims over one million hospital workers as members) are spending millions on the effort. Also coordinating and mobilizing people are groups such as the American Cancer Society’s Cancer Action Network, the AARP, and the American Medical Association. Sadly, rather than supporting ways to make medical bills more affordable, many in health care are pushing to have government pay those bills.

When costs are too high, what do we fix by having government pick up the tab?

AUC says the coalition will generate one million immediate contacts from constituents to lawmakers who opposed the bill. They promise to make this a major issue in congressional campaigns next year. Says AUC President Brad Woodhouse, “We’re taking this on … as epic a battle as the battle to end the war.”

Propaganda is an integral part of warfare, and this group is making it their main weapon. Families USA, for example, presents the issue using cartoonish rhetoric in website headlines such as “Bush vs. Kids” and “President Bush to Children: “No Health Care for You”“

The rally organizers are pulling out all the stops, too. As one e-mailed rally invitation noted, “If you have kids, definitely bring them, too!”

For the Children. Of the Children. Behind the Children. Dodging every step of the way.

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Clinton plays the female card
 
New license law has unintended consequence (in TN)
 
What REALLY happens during an abortion: One surgeon finally tells the truth

Americans are unaware that we have some of the worst abortion laws in the world.

World Abortion Law Map

Green
Abortion never legal, or life-of-mother exception

Yellow
Abortion legal in "hard cases", such as rape, incest, and/or deformed child.

Red
Abortion legal for social reasons (e.g. mother says she can't afford a child), or to protect the mother's "mental health" (definitions and requirements vary).

Purple
Abortion legal at any time during pregnancy for any reason.

CA: Motorist fee increases signed by governor (It's not a TAX, it's a FEE increase. Thx Gubinator!)--

Conservative California - Had Enough Yet?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1911030/posts


7,722 posted on 10/15/2007 9:39:49 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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BLOGGERGATE: Hillary Leads Army of Paid Bloggers
 
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Space Based Solar Power  As an Opportunity for Strategic Security
 
CA: More than 5,000 birds seized in cockfighting raid (7-acre compound raided)
 
Poll: New Yorkers Oppose Allowing Illegal Aliens Driver's Licenses (72 - 22 against Spitzer)
 
Oil Futures Hit New Record of $86--Crude Prices Surge As OPEC Estimates Supplies Are Falling
 
Not Peak Oil, But New Reserves to be Discovered -- The world is not running out of oil, but neither is it running out of religious fanatics, dictators, and communist thugs who want to line their own pockets, while holding us hostage and enslaving vast portions of the world’s population.
 
Stunning new video of Flight 800 crash site (Missle strike theory)--Quite a while ago, there was a very plausible story on a DC radio talk station, which said that if terrorists shot down Flight 800, then the Secret Service (& FAA) could not guarantee the safety of air traffic in the US. Consequently, the President would have to travel by train. Ergo, Flight 800 was not shot down by terrorists - no matter what eye witness saw or what available films showed.. This was a case when the nation was under attack, and we were too "dumb" to realize it.
 
See Ontario's future thru the crystal ball.
The scary thing is people buy this. Canada was very fortunate to export Granholm. 5 years ago she said, "In 4 years Michigan will be blown away", how right she was.

"Granholm: 'It's (not) your money'

It's not just about me, me, me. It's about investing in Michigan," Gov. Jennifer Granholm told the Free Press in a piece Sunday. "Where's the notion of the common good? It's been lost over decades because there's been ... this idea that it's your money, it's your money. What happened to, 'It's your schools, and it's your roads and it's your parks, your libraries?'"

http://forums.detnews.com/danielhowesblog/index.cfm?blogid=136

The guv's spin machine hit overdrive this past weekend with an over-the-top interview that strained credulity and probably pushed more than a few aortas toward the breaking point. Michigan's budget woes, it turns out, are the fault of its greedy citizens.

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Cal Freeway Tunnel Safety Compromised due to Greenie Laws

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7,723 posted on 10/15/2007 1:54:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Hillary Clinton Starts Week on Women's Issues by Promoting Abortion
 
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“Truth about Bush’s SCHIP veto doesn’t match harsh rhetoric”

From the Baltimore Sun, of all places — a paper that I suspect just made Keith Olbermann’s list of “Worst Newspapers In the World” — here’s Grace-Marie Turner, founder and president of the Galen Institute, a free-market-oriented health policy research organization that I suspect just made the list of Keith Olbermann’s “Worst Free-Market-Oriented Health Policy Research Organization in the World”:

Is President Bush a liar who hates children? That’s what many of his critics now are asking. Why else, they say, would he refuse to sign a bill providing health insurance to poor kids?

Specifically, the president has vetoed a bill expanding the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which was designed to provide health coverage to lower-income children. One nationally syndicated columnist went so far as to call Mr. Bush’s rationale in vetoing the bill a “pack of flat-out lies.”

This kind of rhetoric is wrong and misleads people about the facts of this important issue.

There is no debate over whether to reauthorize SCHIP so it can continue to provide insurance to needy children. The debate is about whether children in middle-income families should be added.

The president is absolutely right in insisting that SCHIP focus on its core mission of needy children. When SCHIP was created in 1997, the target population was children whose parents earned too much for them to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance. The president wants the program to focus on children whose families earn less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level. In today’s dollars, that’s $41,300 a year.

About two-thirds of the nation’s uninsured children already are eligible for either Medicaid or SCHIP but aren’t enrolled. Raising the income threshold won’t solve this core problem. Congress should require states to focus on the 689,000 children who the Urban Institute says are uninsured and would be eligible for SCHIP if eligibility were limited to the $41,300 income level.

The other big problem is that many states are using SCHIP dollars to insure adults. Fourteen states cover adults through SCHIP, and at least six of them are spending more of their SCHIP dollars on adults than on children.

With this in mind, the Bush administration issued a ruling in August requiring states to demonstrate that they had enrolled 95 percent of eligible needy children before expanding the program.

Seems reasonable, doesn’t it?

But then, reason doesn’t factor into political rhetoric — where a failure to approve 40 billion of a requested 50 billion dollar increase is characterized as a 40 billion dollar cut to the program.

Which, of course, only makes sense to those who think themselves somehow existentially entitled to whatever it is they ask for.

No one doubts that SCHIP is a vitally important program for needy children, and that our nation needs to do a better job of helping working families afford health insurance. But giving the states incentives to add middle-income kids to their SCHIP rolls would prompt families to replace private insurance with taxpayer-provided coverage.

The goal of SCHIP should be to provide private coverage to uninsured children. If Congress would send the president a bill that does that, he says he would sign it in a minute.

The entire dustup over SCHIP has never been about the Frost family — except insofar as cynical Dems were willing to use an injured child already covered by the program as an emotional beard to demand an increase that would cover those making close to twice as much as the boy’s family.

Or, to put it another way, it was a carefully designed emotional appeal crafted by craven politicians looking for a stepping stone toward socialized medicine — providing incentives for the already insured to drop private healthcare in favor of healthcare paid for by tax dollars, and administered by a federal bureaucracy.

The backlash against those who “smeared” the messengers (who, given that the family was already covered, weren’t really the messengers for what it is supporters of the increase are demanding), therefore, represents the kind of faux outrage of the criminal caught red-handed who cries foul over the way his crime was exposed.

Hence, the defensive nature of the discourse — and the trajectory of the debate toward the emotional, with no regard for the substance of the issues actually under pressure.

As Tomas asks in the comments to an earlier post:

Why can’t these debates ever work like this?

LEFT/DEMOCRATS: “OK, we know that the founders established a system of government that was supposed to be small and limited. They didn’t plan on federal handouts. But history has since shown that certain situations rise to an unusual level of need, and require federal involvement. This program is one of them.”

RIGHT/REPUBLICANS: “We think it’s important to heed the founders’ wishes for small government. We can’t continue adding programs to the federal budget. Where will it stop? We worry that it won’t. This program is problematic because it runs counter to the type of government set out for the United States.”

This SCHIP argument is not about who does or doesn’t care about children. Christ. It’s about the proper role of government. That’s why the retorts from the Olbermanns of the world are so clueless at best, downright dishonest at worst.

If the left would at least acknowledge when its proposed programs do not fit in the intended government framework — that they go above and beyond, but are necessary because of such-and-such — the ensuing debates would be a lot less infuriating. But the left reliably skips that part every time. They proceed from the get-go as if everyone is operating in the same terrain, and pretend it’s thus merely a debate about the actual merits of various proposals.

It’s a rhetorical approach that has gummed up the gears of our political discourse for more than four decades now. It has caused us all to waste a depressing amount of breath, time and energy, sitting here constantly arguing past each other, all because the left is sloppy/dishonest with the debate’s most basic premise.

If only from the perspective of efficiency, it’s maddening.

Well, if it’s any consolation, Tomas, it’s designed to be maddening.

You are dealing with those so impressed with their own presumed genius that they’ve given themselves license to use any means necessary to bring about their desired ends. Using a largely sympathetic press — and casting their political opponents as villains who hate for the simple pleasure of hating (hi, Mr Krugman!) — they are attempting to control public policy by way of rhetorical totalitarianism and cynical manipulation of the un- or ill-informed, a group to whom they both pander and empower.

Of course, once the “progressive” revolution achieves its ends — and soft socialism replaces the liberal democracy the founders envisioned — the “cream” will rise to the top, and a new class of elitist bureaucrats and politicians will take full control of the nannystate, just as they have long believed was their right.

Hell, it’s more than a right. It’s their destiny!

Which is why I recently purchased a plot of land in Idaho. And killed off any frog that may be endangered before some government flack surveys the land, declares it a protected area, and takes it from me.

For my own good.

Were George Orwell not already spinning in his grave, he’d be spinning in his grave.

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John Bolton: Well, I read Atlas Shrugs, Power Line, Michelle Malkin, National Review blogs, and you know, I have left some out. But, I try to read a lot of them -- you know, Redstate, RealClearPolitics -- there is just a lot of good and creative thinking out there and I wish I had time to read more of them.
 

"evidence of a drop in violence in Iraq is becoming hard to dispute"

WaPo comes right out and says it;

it's looking more and more as though those in and outside of Congress who last month were assailing Gen. Petraeus's credibility and insisting that there was no letup in Iraq's bloodshed were -- to put it simply -- wrong.
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7,724 posted on 10/15/2007 4:12:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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This just in from E2:

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1073909#1073909

New postPosted: 15 Oct 2007 18:39 Post subject: Reply with quote
Update:
Richard Warman is continuing his campaign of harrassment and attempted intimidation of Free Dominion. We were served another set of papers from the Censorship Czar moments ago.

As in the first set, Warman is threating to sue unless his demands are met. Connie is retyping it all now and it will appear in a new thread shortly.


7,725 posted on 10/15/2007 4:25:11 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Once again, my favorite site in Canada is under attack by Free Speech Nazis:
 
 
The Little Law Jackal is still attacking our sister site- see latest entries:
 
Richard Warman is at it again! More attacks on Free Dominion... [ 1, 2, 3 ]
 
"Richard Warman works for the Canadian government as a "human rights lawyer" and yet seeks to take away the right of free expression for those he targets and the right of the people to choose what they will and will not hear."
 
 "The list looks like something that a cranky child would put out when their feelings are hurt. It is pretty funny that the censorship king is in front of a judge petulantly whining that he has been called the censorship king and that these people should be censored."
 
' If I'm reading this correctly, every single post I've ever made on this website is now an instance of libel against Dick. '
 
"Something Herr Warman should keep in mind:

I don't think he is going to get anywhere with this childish lawsuit aside from wasting more tax dollars and court time. His history has shown that he indeed is shameless in his pursuit of those wastes.

Either way, lets say Warman manages to shut FD down (long long long shot).

That will leave hundreds of posters homeless and moving into the blogosphere. Most of these posters will not be amused with this anti-free-speech crusader.

Clearly Mr. Warman does not like all the bad things people say about him to pop up when he googles himself."
 
The beginning of this sordid tale:
 
 Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING [ 1 ... 32, 33, 34 ]
 
 
 
The original attack on Free Dominion:
 

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84457
Human Rights attack on Free Dominion

was dismissed when the complaintant realized a fight was coming:

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209
Gentes/CHRC withdraw complaint against Free Dominion

My own words and thoughts?

It doesn't matter where you stand- Right, Left, or Center-- everyone should be concerned that this Warman varmint is threatening lawsuits because someone was talking about him and he didn't like what he saw when googling his own name.

If he's going to sue people Right and Left, he's fair game for discussion.

And if he's going to threaten friends of mine, he's going to get a lot of discussion on every forum, blog, and site I belong to.

Enough

Is

Enough

with speech codes, PC, and censorship.

You can't have honest public policy without honest, frank public discourse.

So his widdle feelings are hurt- so what?

He needs to grow up, and quit abusing the legal system for his own petty ends.

Poll: S-CHIP Should Remain Focused On The Poor

USA Today has polled Americans on the Democratic proposal to extend S-CHIP subsidies to middle-class families -- and the results bode ill for the bill's proponents. A majority of Americans support George Bush's veto, and an even larger majority believes it will undermine private health insurance altogether: 

UPDATE: Bruce Kesler notices the failure of the Democrats, too.

On Auction: "Glittering Jewel Of Colossal Ignorance"

You can bid here.

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Review of FR Author, Jim Macomber's new novel, "A Grave Breach"

GOP To Take On Hillary’s 1992 Eavesdropping

October 15th, 2007

Gee, this sounds strangely familiar.

From The Hill:

GOP targeting Clinton on phone-call snooping

By Alexander Bolton

October 16, 2007

Republicans plan to seize on an allegation from the 1992 presidential campaign to tarnish Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) on the red-hot issue of government surveillance.

Government surveillance will be at the forefront of the political debate this fall as congressional Democrats and President Bush square off over legislation allowing electronic spying on U.S. soil without a warrant.

Republicans are focusing on an allegation in a recent book by two Pulitzer Prize-winning reporters, which suggests Clinton listened to a secretly recorded conversation between political opponents.

In their book about Clinton’s rise to power, Her Way, Don Van Natta Jr., an investigative reporter at The New York Times, and Jeff Gerth, who spent 30 years as an investigative reporter at the paper, wrote: “Hillary’s defense activities ranged from the inspirational to the microscopic to the down and dirty. She received memos about the status of various press inquiries; she vetted senior campaign aides; and she listened to a secretly recorded audiotape of a phone conversation of Clinton critics plotting their next attack.

“The tape contained discussions of another woman who might surface with allegations about an affair with Bill,” Gerth and Van Natta wrote in reference to Clinton’s husband, former President Bill Clinton. “Bill’s supporters monitored frequencies used by cell phones, and the tape was made during one of those monitoring sessions.”

A GOP official said, “Hillary Clinton’s campaign hypocrisy continues to know no bounds. It is rather unbelievable that Clinton would listen in to conversations being conducted by political opponents, but refuse to allow our intelligence agencies to listen in to conversations being conducted by terrorists as they plot and plan to kill us. Team Clinton can expect to see and hear this over and over again over the course of the next year.”

Gerth told The Hill that he learned of the incident in 2006 when he interviewed a former campaign aide present at the tape playing. He has not revealed the aide’s identity. Clinton’s campaign has not disputed any facts reported in the final version of his book, which became public this spring, he said.

“It hasn’t been challenged,” said Gerth. “There hasn’t been one fact in the book that’s been challenged.” …

Several legal experts said it was illegal to intercept cell phone conversations in 1992.

“It’s been clear that since 1986 it was illegal to intercept an individual cell phone call,” said Barry Steinhardt, the director of the technology and liberty program at the American Civil Liberties Union.

Clinton has made privacy an issue on the campaign trail. In July, she discussed her privacy bill of rights in a speech to the American Constitution Society. The proposed rights, ensconced in the Protect Act, include the right to sue when privacy rules have been violated; the right to protect phone records; and the right to freeze credit in the event of identity theft.

During the same speech, she addressed the controversy over government surveillance.

“Every president should save those powers for limited, critical situations,” said Clinton, according to a copy of the speech posted on her campaign website. “And when it comes to a regular program of searching for information that touches the privacy of ordinary Americans, those programs need to be monitored and reviewed as set out by Congress in cooperation with the judiciary.

“That is the essence of the compact we have with each other and with our government, and we cannot ignore it.” …  

The Gerth and Van Natta book came out in June 8, 2007, more than four months ago.

Would it be immodest to note that nobody said beans about this somewhat buried revelation until after it was featured right here on our little corner of the world?

Here is what we posted on October 3, 2007:

**********

Hillary Eavesdropped On Phone Calls Of Critics

From “Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton,” by Jeff Gerth and Don van Natta, Jr., pp 93-4, which describes one of Mrs. Bill Clinton’s roles in the 1992 campaign:

The Defense Team

Hillary’s defense activities ranged from the inspirational to the microscopic to the down and dirty. She received memos about the status of various press inquiries;10 she vetted senior campaign aides;11 and she listened to a secretly recorded audiotape of a phone conversation of Clinton critics plotting their next attack. The tape contained discussions of another woman who might surface with allegations about an affair with Bill. Bill’s supporters monitored frequencies used by cell phones, and the tape was made during one of those monitoring sessions.12

A lot had changed since the moment eighteen years earlier when Hillary had been aghast at the suggestion that the Clinton campaign use underhanded means to garner votes in rural Arkansas.

Yet again, Bill Clinton’s chances were being jeopardized by rumors of his womanizing. And yet again, it was up to Hillary to minimize the threat — and if that meant listening to a tape that had been obtained under questionable circumstances, then she would just deal with it.

10. Numerous 1992 campaign memoranda addressed to Hillary Rodham Clinton.
11. David Halberstam, War in a Time of Peace (New York: Scribner, 2001), 20.
12. Author interview with former campaign aide present at the tape playing in 2006.

That’s right. Mrs. Bill Clinton listened in on tapes of the private phone calls of critics. She eavesdropped on private citizens in order to try to head off the next “bimbo eruption.” All of which is surely highly illegal.

And mind you these aren’t allegations from the “vast rightwing conspiracy.” This is from the pens of the New York Times reporters and Pulitzer Prize winners Gerth and Van Nata.

Of course this is the same worthy who is now marshaling her surrogates and minions to silence Rush Limbaugh, and anyone else she perceives as standing in the way of her coronation. It is clear she will not stop at anything to achieve power.

This is “her way.”

**********

Once again S&L leads the way to a better tomorrow.

Meanwhile, just for a lark, let’s remember what Mrs. Clinton had to say upon the resignation of that arch-criminal Alberto Gonzales just last August, at the “Presidential Cancer Forum” (sic):

Hillary on Gonzales Resignation

“Yes, I think we should set a standard that the next Attorney General cares about the rule of law more than he cares about protecting the President.”

She’s beautiful when she’s self-righteous, isn’t she?

Or maybe not “beautiful.”  2 Comments »

HILLARY CLINTON: Tapping phones and planning violence against Iran?

It'll be like President Cheney, only with hair!

Hillary's 3rd Quarter Refunds: Large, But Lacking

Clinton report lists refunds to 249 Hsu donors

I DON'T LIKE TRAFFIC CAMERAS, but here's an approach to slowing down speeders that I could get behind. (Link is worksafe, but the video there not so much.)

BROKEN TRUST: Problems for Microsoft with its Windows Update debacle.

Free HTML Editor?

Trucker's Phone Call May Be Clue He's Among Dead in I-5 Pileup --Container trucks come out of and are heading to the ports. These drivers are primarily, excuse my language, wetbacks and ragheads. The speed limit in California is 55 for trucks. Most cops will let you go 62. These idiots go 70 or better. I’ll have my cruise control set at 62 and they blow me off the road. Unfortunately, I never see a container puller stopped by a CHP. Why?? Because ‘they’ can’t afford the tickets and the cops know it and they don’t bother to stop them. These guys are some of the worst drivers I’ve ever seen. With NAFTA in full affect, America is going to see an increase in truck wrecks. Mostly due to poorly trained drivers and seriously dangerous trucks not kept up to American standards. Two, if you look it up, 87% of all accidents involving trucks are caused by cars.

Ann Coulter Wants Jews To Become Christian - So What? (Dennis Prager On Liberal Hypocrisy Alert)

Rape Victim Delivers Message To Other Women (Get a Gun)

Dems Mull Surcharge On Rich, But Another AMT Patch Likely

A Capital Gains Primer

Why The Media Is So Afraid of Fred Thompson


7,726 posted on 10/16/2007 1:52:58 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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CNN: Reid's letter condemning Limbaugh fetches $46K on eBay (Now up to $50,300)
 
Hey, Rush: We're Good
 
Apocalypse Now: Globe's Global Warmist Makes Even Gore Look Cool
 
Engine Turnoff (Big Brother on the march!) --Technology should not just entertain us or make us more comfortable," croons NHTSA Administrator Nicole R. Nason. "It should make us safer." Of course. And what could be safer than making speeding an impossibility?
 
How the West Was Lost--There are three threats to Europe's future.
The first comes from demographic decline. Europeans are not reproducing.
The second threat comes from the presence of a growing immigrant population, a large part of which is not interested in integration.
 The third threat comes from the existence of the welfare state and the welfare state mentality.
 
"Clerks facing blackout on election information"--tests that have revealed teams of computer hackers sanctioned by California Secretary of State Debra Bowen were able to hack without difficulty into various vendors' touch-screen voting machines during a "top to bottom review" of every system certified by the state, according to a University of California study.
 
Buried Victories
 
Priest Gets Visit From 'Hate Crime' Police
 
 Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING
 
My early morning emailing begins to bear fruit...

Thank you, Kathy Shaidle!
 
http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/
 

Richard Warman sues Free Dominion because commenters called him a "censor", "dictator" and a "member of the thought police"

Free Dominion is under attack again -- by a "human rights lawyer", no less. Look, some of the comments he's suing over are appalling -- "cryptojew"?? -- but is FD responsible for every crazy comment a third party posts on their message boards?

Is anyone besides Warman googling "Richard Warman" all day and coming up with these messages? Won't a suit simply increase the number of such posts?

Mark & Connie have reprinted the entire whatyacallit on the site. Here's the bottom line:

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT you have spoken words and/or written words and/or published words that contain serious allegations against me, clearly stating among other things to the readers of the website www.freedomion.ca in their plain and ordinary meaning or by virtue of the surrounding circumstances wich give the words a defamatory meaning inferentially or by innuendo, that you are questioning my morality, integrity, and professionalism; that I commit disreputable and unconstitutional acts such as the suppression of free speech; that I am controlled by others; that I have committed criminal acts; that I am a sexual deviant, coward, Nazi and comparable to the Nazi SS, fascist, dictator, member of the human rights Gestapo, and akin to Stalinist political officers; that I laugh at individuals with mental illness; that I abuse public funds; that I am a homosexual and that homosexuality is associated with paedophilia; that I pose a greater danger to society than members of the neo-Nazi movement; that I desire to muzzle Canadians; that I am a legal jackal; and, that I have committed treason. You have defamed and libelled me in my skill, judgment, and/or capacity in my profession.

"Laughing at people with mental illness" is a bad thing?

It would be kind of funny if somebody took the "homosexuality/paedophilia" part and turned the trial into a "Scopes" thing. "Pedophilia", no. But...  And I thought being gay was cool. If someone called me gay I wouldn't bother suing.

Interesting post at Free Republic, posted during the last kerfuffle:

"The Canadian Human Rights Commission is out of control. Plain and Simple.

"I am a current victim of Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, and have been under going a three year legal battle with them, due to a message board I had on my website (www.freedomsite.org) back in 2003. Not a single word I have written is at issue, but rather messages others posted (that I did not even know about) As part of my vigorous defence, I have challenged the Constitutionality of Section 13 (Internet gag law) and Section 54 (fines) of the Canadian Human Rights Act.

"Here is a few statistics from my case that tells the whole story about the CHRC:

Active and Past cases: 43
Cases the tribunal ruled on: 29

• 0% of respondents have ever won a section 13 case before the tribunal.
• 100% of cases have Whites as respondents
• 98% of cases have poor or working class respondents
• 90.7% of respondents are not represented by lawyers
• So far, $80,500 has been awarded in fines and special compensation since May 9, 2003.
• 72.4% of complaints specifically identify "jews" as victims.
48.8% of all cases (Past and active) are by Richard Warman

That's one guy's information. I'd love to get confirmation of those numbers.

Anyway: people wonder why I don't allow comments on this site. One reason is that comments provide a place for people (myself included) to possibly post the kinds of remarks Warman is suing over. I don't care about Warman's hurt feelings, or the possibility of "getting in trouble." But I'd hate wasting my time and money going to court over some anonymous poster's asinine remarks.

One way concerned Canadians can help FreeDominion is to do the exact opposite of what they're doing now: stop writing stuff about "fecalphilia" or whatever on someone else's website, and getting them in trouble, while you act all outraged -- then go about your business without having to hire a lawyer.

The web is all about "punk rock", over the top, uncontrolled rhetoric, and I hate to think that suits like this will force us to tone it down. But they just might.



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AL QUAEDA: The next goal is to liberate SPAIN from infidels
 
Debate flies over 'sex play' in kindergartens (Norway)
 
Prescribe 'the pill' at middle school?
 
Builders Giving Up On The Sinking Market (4 Trillion in Losses)
 
The consumer buying binge is over
 
 The Amazing Skidboot
 
Air America Host Randi Rhodes Mugged (few teeth knocked out)
 
The big one — results of the biggest clinical trial of healthy eating ever [Results - NO benefit]
 
'Giant dino' (as in 105 ft.) found in Argentina

7,728 posted on 10/16/2007 7:39:48 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Coincidence CHRC-Warman, FD & Connie's upcoming presenta... -- Anyone here believe in coincidence?
Connie invited to Burlington to speak on internet censorship.

Quote:

Help Us Fight the "Human Rights" Spy Agency

 
Richard Warman is at it again! More attacks on Free Dominion... [ 1 ... 4, 5, 6 ]
 
Food as a "Right"
 
Gore: Universal Health Care a 'Right'-- Rights do not cost money nor do rights necessitate the taxing of Americans to pay for said rights.
 
Undocumented kids seek aid of Congress
 
The Conservative Argument AGAINST Fred Thompson, Part 1
 
Air America host Randi Rhodes wasn't mugged (oops)--Do liberals ever tell the truth about anything?
 
Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist[UK]
 
VA: Million Mom March To Protest Local Gun Show [Barf Alert]
 
Availability of "The Great Global Warming Swindle in US"
 
Killer cow emissions (Cause more global warming than autos)
 
(CA)Cockfighting Bust Nets More Than 5,000 Birds, 50 Arrests(More info)
 
WHAT THE MEDIA SOMEHOW MISSED .... CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY--“I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman
 
FUNNY: Top 10 Tithe Check Memo Notes
 
Oscar Wilde crowned king of the quips
 
C.W. Nevius: Support for supervised drug injection is growing
 
Tough, Sad and Smart (Bill Cosby and Harvard’s Dr. Alvin Poussaint on Black self-destruction)--Good message. Sadly, back in the 1960s when Pat Moyniham warned that the Great Society would bring us to exactly this point, that message was rejected. Harboring grievances, building voting blocks and feathering more bureaucratic nests was far more important to the establishment than the simple common sense message that lower class black family structure was already fragile and the welfare society would destroy what was little remained rather than encourage stable family life.

7,729 posted on 10/16/2007 11:22:31 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Law of the Sea Treaty on Fast Track to Ratification--Reagan worried about this thing. That means it’s bad news in my book.
 
(Gas) Minimum Markup Law Deemed Unconstitutional (in WI)--a dime a gallon is an unfair profit to the station owner, who bears the burden of all responsibility and liabilty, while glossing over the potential 50 cent+ per gallon gas tax collected by the state.
 
 
Danger of "cheese" has me rethinking my stance on

7,730 posted on 10/16/2007 12:16:17 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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CPC and the Media? - Connie on CBC Radio
 
Stunning new video of Flight 800 crash site
 
Report Reveals New Details About Hsu Fundraising (filed by Mrs. Bill Clinton)
 
 Hillary Clinton's Agenda for Working Families: Helping Parents Balance Work & Family-- She certainly has an entitlement program for every minority in this country.
 
TONIGHT: RUDY UNLOADS ON HILLARY: 'WHAT IS HER EXPERIENCE?'
 
Paul v Clinton - ACLU appellate court judges protect Hillary, HOWEVER, SHE WILL SOON BE UNDER OATH
 
Clinton Kosovo Policy Will Haunt Candidate Clinton (Good read about history of conflict)
 
NYers Overwhelmingly Oppose Gov’s License Proposal(for illegal immigrants)
 
The tragedy of multiculturism: the Netherlands this week
 
Woman Cited For Yelling Obscenities At Toilet--Oh, for God's Sake- this is absurd.

The Nanny State is devolving into the Naggy State...

"Yer too fat"

"Ya eat too much!"

"Ya smoke too much!"

"Don't You Dare Question My Authority!"

"Don't you say those naughty words..."

Gives new meaning to a phrase an old and evil girlfriend of mine was fond of, many years ago...

"Toilet-tongue..."
 
 Clean Air Act up in smoke
 
I just paid $3.14 per gallon: HOME HEATING OIL
 
Water is money
 
Medieval DNA, Modern Medicine (Lessons From The Black Death)
 
Talk show host apologizes for faulty report of NYC mugging [of Randi Rhodes]
 
Members of Latino gang charged with race-motivated crimes (Ethnic cleansing in LA)
 
Man gang-raped at Tuku show (Zimbabwean immigrants in the UK)
 
Are Some Now Understanding What Happened to Terri Schiavo Was Wrong?
 
Fred Talks of Democrats’ “Comfortable Mediocrity”

7,731 posted on 10/16/2007 4:07:17 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Addendum and comments, 10-17-07

I rarely drop out of Lurk & Link mode to say much... but to amend, and append BlogWarZ details, I will here.

Having been summarily banned ( no warning, no “knock it off,” not a word from a man- “Chuckles”- I once gave money to ) from that, that... what was the name of that site I used to admire, for standing up to the Jihadists?

Fooseballs?

Little Green Pills?

Since I was banned for merely belonging to another site Chuckles fears and loathes, and blocked from accessing Fooseballs, imagine my surprise when I was able to visit it via another link...

And what did I find?

Same old, same old...

“Religion of Peace Strikes in ___”
( fill in the blank, be creative- idiocy does not improve by repetition... )

Same old same old commentators sayin' the same old stuff...

A few kooks, trolls and disruptors... the better to goad the troops, and build ad-clicks up, my dear...

And a few good folks- but the best left, or got banned.

“Pity about LGF...”

The start of it, here:


I have really, really hesitated ( thought, pondered, and consulted Miss Emily ) about raising this subject here, in what I call “The Comfortable Hole.”

I have tried to largely leave politics, and what I term “Forum Wars,” out of the Gerbil Nation... but we have members who belong to other forums, as do I, so we need to put out information on a brewing, nasty

Blog War...

Having never been banned from any forum, in 26 years of being online, I was not amused to find I'd been banned from Little Green Footballs, in the steal of the night.

No warning, no email, no “knock it off!” Just:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/833678/posts?page=7628#7628 --The Formerly Esteemed Heavy Equipment Guy gets whacked from the formerly relevant LGF-- ( scroll down to the pic of Fred Thompson to see the whole of it )

The upshot of most ( not all, but enough ) of things leading up to this are here, and hotlinks are provided at this location so you can see what's what:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/833678/posts?page=7626#7626

-Synopsis--

And here's the lead-up to it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/833678/posts?page=7622#7622

-A GIANT ROUNDUP of LGF vs. GCP --

John R, AKA backhoe...

Read it all, as Atlas says, and use the links you will find there.

Signing off...

7,732 posted on 10/17/2007 2:22:23 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Beheading Nations: The Islamization of Europe’s Cities (Islam Alert)
 
Americans Are An Afterthought
 
Debate flies over 'sex play' in kindergartens--The mere fact that this is debated, rather than these "educators" dismissed (or preferably taken out behind the barn and given a 25 yard head start before opening fire) is a commentary on the decline of morality in our lifetime.
Prescribe "the pill" at middle school? (Maine "educator" vomit alert!)
 
The Democrats' SCHIP Runs Aground (Free Republic Mentioned)
 
(PETER PAUL RESPONDS) Hillary’s “Crime On Tape” Protected By CA Appellate Court

Are you ....Experienced?

RU-DAY!

TONIGHT: RUDY UNLOADS ON HILLARY: 'WHAT IS HER EXPERIENCE?' via Drudge

Excerpt from Mayor Giuliani's interview that airs tonight on FOXNEWS's Hannity & Colmes at 9PM ET

 

R. GIULIANI: "Honestly, in most respects, I don't know Hillary's experience. She's never run a city, she's never run a state. She's never run a business. She has never met a payroll. She has never been responsible for the safety and security of millions of people, much less even hundreds of people.

"So I'm trying to figure out where the experience is here. It would seem to me that in a time of difficult problems and war we don't want on the job training for an executive. The reality is that these areas in which - maybe there are some areas in which she has experience but the areas of having the responsibility of the safety and security of millions of people on your shoulders is not something Hillary has ever had any experience with."


7,733 posted on 10/17/2007 2:23:45 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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No Exit--If we lose this war, we lose Western civilization.
 
Gore’s Nine Lies
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Motorists Forced To Let Officers Draw Blood Samples At DUI Stops--So these officers are now practicing medicine without a license?
people who advocate obeying unjust law simply because it is the law are cowards. We'd still be a colony if they ran the world.
 
Hidden agendas in the global AIDS campaign
 
Warman, FD a Hate Site with Hateful Posters?
 
 Bobby and J. Edgar
 
FD in the Toronto Star today re: John Tory
 
  Air America host denies being the victim of an attack --can liberals ever tell the truth about anything? Or is it all "the narrative," rhetoric, and spin control?
 
Rush Limbaugh Earns Big Money From Senate Letter Chastising [ 1, 2 ] --THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY GOES :
Where are the 41 Dem sen now. Come on morons put your money were your mouth is.
The recent war in Iraq has certainly illuminated America’s commitment to freedom. We are reminded that freedom is not free. The price is great. No one knows that better than the left-behind sons and daughters of America’s fallen heroes.

Through the continuous support of our donors, we have distributed aid with a value of more than $29,000,000.00 to eligible children. This assistance was primarily rendered to children of Marines or Federal law enforcement personnel who were killed on duty or died under extraordinary circumstances while serving our country at home or abroad. These funds enable us to provide these children with scholarships for their higher education. When a child of a United States Marine is afflicted with a physical or mental disability and requires special medical equipment or tutoring, our Foundation may grant financial assistance to that family if their personal insurance does not cover the complete cost of treatment for this child.

http://www.mc-lef.org/
 
Real estate: More price drops, more layoffs
 
Housing starts, permits plunge
 
Sinking SCHIP: A Defining Moment--The Democrats may believe their Romper Room politics are working.
Pelosi: "Hate Radio" Demeans SCHIP Kids-- This is where the Dems really want to take us...defining any  disagreement as "Hate Crimes"...
 
Big Brother at school
 
Turning Kids into Sex Offenders--I think the Left is very good at setting up these situations. No, I don't think it's a "conspiracy" but I do think that activists know how to turn lemons into lemonade and make any situation work to their advantage. Get a 13-year-old boy registered as a sexual offender, and you've really done something to be proud of, eh? This all leads to a breakdown of authority in schools and families and society. Making crazy rules, and forcing people to enforce the rules can be quite destructive.
 
Prince William Passes Illegal Immigrant Plan Hundreds Show Up At Public Hearing
 
41 Arrested In Massive Identity-Theft Sting

7,734 posted on 10/17/2007 6:22:51 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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7,735 posted on 10/17/2007 7:05:50 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Border Movie: The American Nightmare
 
(White House)Spokeswoman: Illegals 'not seeking to live here' --That's what we've been saying all along. They just want to hang out here and make money, and send it back HOME, all the while lowering our wages, getting housing and medical and welfare benefits and sucking us taxpayers dry.
 
Quebec bans use of word 'weathervane,' saying it's a slur
 
A Past Assoc. Giuliani Would Rather People Forgot (Rudy Giuliani Joins Forces With George Soros)
 
October 17, 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake
 
Southern California Home Sales Plunge 30%
 
S.F. cop on hot seat for writing sizzling letter about homeless
 
House Republicans Likely to Uphold Veto (SCHIP)
 
More Nanny-Statism From Hillary
 
Wind turbine on your roof? Not so fast
 
DUmmie FUnnies 10-17-07 ("Randi Rhodes is the Victim of a Violent Attack")

7,736 posted on 10/17/2007 8:44:19 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Junk Science: DDT Backlash Continues
 
The Great Global Warming Swindle [ 1 ... 3, 4, 5 ]
 
CAMERAS, CROOKS, AND DETERRENCE: "Constant surveillance seems to have had little effect on Britain’s sky-high crime."
 
MORE POLICE VIDEO THUGGISHNESS: "Frank Waterhouse of Oregon is suing Portland police after he was tasered and shot with a beanbag gun. His offense? Videotaping a warrantless police search on a friend's property.
 
Border officials bust illegals in southeast Quebec
 
Multiculturalism under the microscope
 
 Panicking Liberals play the anti-American card
 
Hanging Nooses: Hate or Hoax Upsurge
 
Nobel Scientist Condemned For 'Racist' Claims
 
Scandal Rocks U.N. Sea Treaty Organization
 
Exercise Vigilant Shield ’08 slated for October (USNORTHCOM Martial Law exercise scare)
 
Former ABC Anchor Carole Simpson Endorses Hillary [from the woman who brought us 'Ponytail Guy']
 
Crooked Hillary --so thoroughly corrupt it is frightening.
Blood trail:
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/12/cov_23news.html
 "A dark and evil world"
Selling the "right to bleed"
Friends in high places
High-risk population? "I disagree with that"

SALON | Dec. 24, 1998

Suzi Parker is a Little Rock journalist whose work has appeared in the New York Times and many local publications.

 
Debunking the Anti-Freds: II. Conservatism

7,737 posted on 10/17/2007 12:49:13 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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EBAY Auction hits $100,000: Original Harry Reid/Rush Limbaugh Smear Letter--No word from the signers of the original letter if any of them plan to contribute....much less match the winning bid as Limbaugh has pledged to do.
Here's a list of those Scrooges, err, Senators:

......Harry Reid ......Hillary Rodham Clinton ......Blanche Lincoln
......Richard Durbin ......Kent Conrad .......Bob Menendez
......Charles Schumer ......Christopher Dodd ......Barbara Mikulski
......Patty Murray ......Byron Dorgan ......Bill Nelson
......Daniel Akaka ......Dianne Feinstein ......Barack Obama
......Max Baucus ......Tom Harkin ......Jack Reed
......Joseph Biden .......Daniel Inouye .......Jay Rockefeller
......Barbara Boxer ......Edward M. Kennedy ......Ken Salazar
......Sherrod Brown ......John Kerry ......Bernie Sanders
......Robert Byrd ......Amy Klobuchar ......Debbie Stabenow
......Benjamin Cardin ......Mary Landrieu .......Jon Tester
......Tom Carper .......Frank Lautenberg ......Jim Webb
......Bob Casey ......Patrick Leahy ......Sheldon Whitehouse
......Carl Levin ......Ron Wyden
 
When Hillary's Right, She's Right
 
8 from Greenpeace surrounded in Amazon (by hundreds of loggers and angry residents)
 
Letters in Response to Capt. Lund and Code Pink (RE: USMC Captain's Open Letter To Code Pink)

7,738 posted on 10/17/2007 1:34:02 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Rush Limbaugh Earns Big Money From Senate Letter Chastising [ 1, 2 ] --$102300.00 now. I predicted 100000 by fri may hit 150000.


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Pelosi Lashes Out at Limbaugh (FR mentioned)
 

S-CHIP Watch: Newsweek goes nutroots, Pelosi blames “hate radio,” Mikulski barks at Rush; Update: Bush addresses S-CHIP, Dems trot out…singer Paul Simon; Update: MoveOn cashes in its S-CHIP

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 17, 2007 07:00 AM

Update 1:15pm Eastern. Well, well. Read this: MoveOn Threatens Republicans With New SCHIP Ads.

And now read this fund-raising letter from the MoveOn thugs cashing in on S-CHIP (via S.M.)…

From: Noah T. Winer, MoveOn.org Political Action mailto:moveon-help@list.moveon.org
Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:46:30 -0400
Subject: Meet Bethany

We’re down to the wire on kids’ health care—a few votes away from victory. USAction is highlighting one of the best reasons to override Bush’s veto—Bethany, a 2-year-old girl who might not be here today without SCHIP. Click below to see the ad—it’s powerful—and donate $25 to get a 30-second version on the air.
Contribute Now

Dear MoveOn member,

We’re just a few votes short of overriding President Bush’s veto and allowing millions of kids to see a doctor when they’re sick. The vote is tomorrow.1 It’s time to pull out all the stops.

We need to remind Republicans there will be dramatic consequences if they stand with Bush on this one. The consequences aren’t just political: this means real health problems for millions of real kids.

One of those kids is Bethany, a 2-year-old girl born with a heart defect who’s only healthy today because of the SCHIP children’s health program. Our friends at USAction put together an ad with her story, and we want to raise money to tell that story in the districts of representatives who vote wrong.

Our goal is to raise at least $200,000 today to run the ad. Can you chip in $25? Our ad will be a slightly shorter version of the video you can see by clicking here—you should check it out:

[URL]

The more we raise today, the more members of Congress will think twice about our ad campaign before they vote.

Bethany Wilkerson was born with several holes in her heart. Her family lives in St. Petersburg, Florida, on an annual income of $34,000—not poor, but unable to afford private health insurance. Even if they could, Bethany’s “pre-existing condition” makes it impossible to qualify. Only because of SCHIP is Bethany healthy today.

With children’s lives hanging in the balance, this is a politically risky vote for Republicans, and they’re watching public reaction closely to decide what to do. We’re announcing our ad to the local press in the districts of our top targets. No member of Congress will be able to vote against our kids without knowing they will be held accountable by voters.

But this isn’t just about scaring Congress into voting the right way. Some people will vote wrong, and it’s critically important to let their constituents know they abandoned our kids.

At last night’s vigils, we lit candles for the millions of children who are one vote away from having health insurance. Here are a few of your highlights:

Chanting, connecting with others, and responding to MANY supportive honks from passing drivers.—Margaret N., East Lansing, MI
Having children deliver hand written message to the congressman’s office.—Jim G., Chico, CA
We started the action in the wind and rain with candles blowing out immediately. Mid-way through a magnificent rainbow appeared and grew brighter. At the end the sun was shining. —Judy T., Lopez Island, WA

President Bush vetoed SCHIP because it’s such a successful public program—and the right-wing’s ideology is about running the government into the ground to keep it from serving the common good. But children’s health care has so much popular support that Bush’s supporters are paying a heavy political price for defending this failed ideology.

Together—with phone calls, rallies, vigils, letters, and TV ads—we can make the political price too high for opponents of children’s health care to stomach.

Can you contribute $25 to pressure House members to override Bush’s veto of children’s health care? Click here:

[URL]

Thank you for all you do.

–Noah, Adam G., Jennifer, Carrie, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Wednesday, October 17th, 2007

Source:
1. “Poll Reflects Republican Divisions on SCHIP,” NPR, October 17, 2007

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3060&id=11416-7005627-DY4c2t&t=4

PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.

Update 11:25am Eastern. Bush briefly addressed S-CHIP at his morning press conference, noting that he supports covering 500,000 children who are eligible for the current program and questioning the creeping entitlement in states where more adults than children are now covered by S-CHIP. Bush complains that “we weren’t dialed in” on the legislative process. Reporters whining about lack of bipartisanship. “Isn’t it your responsibility to work with Congress to make sure you don’t get to the veto point?” And I’m so sure the White House press corps would hammer a Democrat president with the same indignant question.

Last Bush comment on S-CHIP: “I don’t like plans that encourage people to move from private plans to the public. And that’s what that bill would do.”

Meanwhile, the Dems traded in tots for singer Paul Simon, who called President Bush’s veto, what else, “a heartless act:”

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Several readers e-mailed to inform me that I’ve earned a down arrow from the “Conventional Wisdom” charters at Newsweek.

Or is it KOSweek now?

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Meanwhile, doing her own best Kossified Kabuki act, Nancy Pelosi lashed out at “hate radio” in advance of Thursday’s S-CHIP veto override vote. Amanda Carpenter reports:

This reporter asked Pelosi “Is it appropriate for opponents of SCHIP expansion to openly question the circumstances that led some children to become spokespeople for that expansion?”

Pelosi replied that she “would not censor” critics and “I can’t control what they have to say,” but much of it was “beneath the integrity of the debate.”

She classified many of the “attacks that impugn children” as coming from “hate radio.”

Are our questions and arguments “beneath the integrity of the debate?” Impossible. The “integrity of the debate” hit rock-bottom last night with Olbermann goading the Frost family to post photos of their children in their hospital beds after their horrible accident in order to score cheap political points.

Democrat Sen. Barbara Mikulski played Pelosi’s mini-me and piled on Rush Limbaugh. He’s laughing out loud:

I’m not mad. This is parallel universe time like it’s never been. The other side does not want to get it right. This is a great illustration, folks, of what they use the media monopoly for. They have their narratives; they have their templates. The truth is the most inconvenient thing to them. Fiction is what they need to survive, and in order to sell and peddle fiction, you need a monopoly and they don’t have their monopoly anymore, but they’re still peddling their fiction and they don’t understand how it is destroying them and discrediting them — and, for that, ladies and gentlemen, I celebrate, and I say, “I’m happy,” because it’s succeeding.

Indeed. But don’t take it for granted. Call your congressman and make your voice heard.

Capitol switchboard - 202-224-3121.

House Republican Leader John Boehner:
(202) 225-6205 phone
(202) 225-0704 fax

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More:

- My column today - Slick S-CHIP sanctimony
- Catholic United’s deceitful S-CHIP ads

Posted in: Graeme Frost

7,740 posted on 10/17/2007 3:51:40 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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