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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Overtaxed
What monthly newletter?
481 posted on 12/18/2002 9:22:56 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
The newsletter at work.
482 posted on 12/18/2002 9:23:42 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
Did you see my "landscape" pictures?
483 posted on 12/18/2002 9:26:05 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Wneighbor
Gosh, do I need to go see the movie again and see if I hallucinated too? I really didn't like the Faramir thing. But, I do remember him telling Frodo something about finding his body floating in the river in a boat or something. What I remember was indeed glossed over quickly in verbage and I might have made more of a passing remark than was there. But, I do seem to remember the reference.

Someone else made that point as well. Perhaps I just missed it. Of course, the fact that the FILM CUT OUT FOR THE THIRD FREAKING TIME around that moment may have distracted me.

I'm seeing it in 40 minutes so I'll look again - and hope for no interruptions.

Surprisingly the PJ "liberties" worked for me. This was not the case with FOTR. The Osgiliath sidetrip and Faramir's alterations left me with forebodings when I first heard the rumors. But it all seemed to work very well for me. The set piece in Osgiliath was something to behold, and for the glimpses of the ruins of Old Gondor and the beginnings of the War of the Ring I can forgive the alteration.

I still have not made my mind up about the Ents just yet - though I will say that the storming of Isengard was cinematic brilliance. Laughter ensued in the theater when the flaming Ent doused his head in the onrushing waters.

484 posted on 12/18/2002 9:26:18 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: The Iguana; HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
The thing is with Faramir...sure, PJ changed the movie, but I just saw it as kind of putting Frodo's doubts and concerns about him (in the book) into some sort of visual shape. It would have been difficult to show Frodo's emotional concerns, so instead PJ actually made it so that Faramir's behavior caused us to have those same concerns!

I thought it was very well done. Oh my lands, I loved it!

My heart never skipped a beat...Steve was cheerful and had a great time...I wasn't the least bit tired.

I did have to get up once to go to the bathroom.

One of my favorite parts what when Gandalf and the balrog plunged into that underground massive lake! It was gorgeous! I said to Steve "Look at all that water!"

Another favorite part was the flooding of Isengard. Oh my...it was just like I've always invisioned it.

Too many favorite parts to mention! The whole thing was fabulous from start to finish. Even Sam and Frodo at the end. I loved it.
485 posted on 12/18/2002 9:35:29 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Did it help Steve out to actually meet someone from here?
486 posted on 12/18/2002 9:39:14 AM PST by ksen
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To: Overtaxed
Yes, I'm looking at the ice pictures right now. Incredible!

Here are some more pictures. The first one is me playing the whistle for JameRetief and the second is Steve playing chess with some guys at the line party. Steve's in the white shirt.


487 posted on 12/18/2002 9:40:22 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: The Iguana
Okay, after you see the film again you're going to have to update me. I know that you're going to be watching for this.

At the time I went to the movie I didn't have advance warning about the changes in Faramir's character. I was hit blind with that. Because I just got finished reading the entire thing again before seeing the movie that was just wrong wrong wrong. But, I thought things like that after LoTR and I've gotten used to it. Matter of fact, the last time I read it I found the lines blurred between film/book. A couple of times (perish the thought) I stopped and thought, 'no, that's not how it was.' I can't believe I just admitted that.

As for the ents... I hated the handling of that last night as I watched the film and as I thought about it afterwards. But, I'm getting more okay with it. I loved the storming of Isengard, people in the theater where I was laughed at the same point! Me too. It was funny. But, it bothered me that the entmoot went wrong. After hours of thinking, perhaps this conveighs the idea to non-readers of the lack of haste of the ents? I don't know. I was disappointed in several aspects of the ents portion... but, after a few more hours of contemplation I will probably get over that.

The Faramir thing, I have always liked Faramir and Boromir's having mirrored characteristics. So giving Faramir those ring-lusting characteristics of Boromir isn't working for me. At least not yet. Don't mistake me though, I love the movie and will see it many more times.
488 posted on 12/18/2002 9:50:34 AM PST by Wneighbor
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To: 2Jedismom
Giving the Feadóg a workout! Was there any whistle music in TTT or was it too "dark and stormy" for such a hobbity-sounding instrument?
489 posted on 12/18/2002 9:50:42 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: g'nad
Hey g'nad! How was the SarMajor's retirement party?
490 posted on 12/18/2002 9:51:42 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Overtaxed
Yes, there was some...hobbity music, you know. I understand Joanie Madden played some of it.
491 posted on 12/18/2002 9:52:21 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I still have to pick my CD's....thought I'd go for the "buy 3 get 3 free" deal. I can't shop for CD's too well here at work...no soundcard to play samples with.
492 posted on 12/18/2002 9:54:12 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
A bump for the new thread.
493 posted on 12/18/2002 9:56:05 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: 2Jedismom
That's cool that you won that Pippin bust in the trivia contest...I am kind of amazed, impressed for sure. Nice picture.

We haven't made any plans yet for seeing the movie, since my wife is right in the middle of final exams, hopefully we will go as soon as she is finished with that.

Too bad thet have not finished both for this year, though.
494 posted on 12/18/2002 9:56:39 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: ksen; RMDupree
Steve actually seemed to have a great time! He played chess most the time and didn't socialize too much, but that's ok because it's the way he is and he was happy.

I mostly went around taking pictures for the line party leader.

Ruthy, what's the name of that photo hosting site you use?
495 posted on 12/18/2002 9:58:12 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Wneighbor
But, I have moved to a new city, 200 miles from my host of longtime friends.

Well you just got yourself a whole gang of new ones! Welcome!

496 posted on 12/18/2002 10:06:36 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Hey, thanks!
497 posted on 12/18/2002 10:09:47 AM PST by Wneighbor
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To: SuziQ
Back from lunch, and I'm so wound up. Bless my office roomie, he's running the extended version of LoTR on his computer! Wheee! Down to about three hours for me now. Thanks for everyone's reviews.

Oh and: WELCOME, NEW ELVES!

498 posted on 12/18/2002 10:12:35 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Overtaxed; All; sneakers; Wneighbor; Reborn; The Iguana; Argh; Elenya; My back yard; ...
The Two Towers comes on here in Germany in about 5 hours, but I have go to work tomorrow---so it will have to wait until Friday. They are showing Fellowship of the Ring at 8:00pm--then TTT at midnight.

Love the German title for the movie:

Der Herr de Ringes: Die Zwei Aufsätze

499 posted on 12/18/2002 10:14:09 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Welcome back! sorry to hear about the troubles with your family, hope kids, wife, and you are better now. God's blessing on you and your family in dealing with your Aunt. It will be so frustrating for you and for her! My Mama is 83, and also has Alzheimers.

You'll just have to join us in the evenings instead of during work time! I know what you mean about an 'addiction' to FR. Sometimes I don't get stuff done around the house that I really should because it is just WAY too much fun around this place!

We get to see the movie tomorrow when both boys are home from college. We're so excited, and all of these reviews just add to it!

500 posted on 12/18/2002 10:14:51 AM PST by SuziQ
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