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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


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To: Sam Cree
The context is... philosophical, talking about people who say trees are just trees and stars are flaming balls of gas. Tolkien is defending stories and myths as our creative (divine in origin) birthright...

I think this verse explains it. And the poem name is 'Mythopoeia'.

"The heart of man is not compound of lies,
but draws some wisdom from the only Wise,
and still recalls him. Though now long estranged,
man is not wholly lost nor wholly changed.
Dis-graced he may be, yet is not dethroned,
and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned,
his world-dominion by creative act:
not his to worship the great Artefact,
man, sub-creator, the refracted light
through whom is splintered from a single White
to many hues, and endlessly combined
in living shapes that move from mind to mind.
Though all the crannies of the world we filled
with elves and goblins, though we dared to build
gods and their houses out of dark and light,
and sow the seeds of dragons, 'twas our right
(used or misused). The right has not decayed.
We make still by the law in which we're made."
43,741 posted on 06/09/2003 6:02:07 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Sam Cree
I figured if citronella repelled mosquitoes, eating/drinking citrus should too. I thought I read somewhere that it did.
43,742 posted on 06/09/2003 6:03:44 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB
Thanks. It's beautiful. Where'd you find it?
43,743 posted on 06/09/2003 6:04:25 PM PDT by Sam Cree (HHDerelict)
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To: Sam Cree
A friend of mine - Classics scholar and Oxford denizen - sent it to me this morning. We have discussed Art and Stories in relation to Christianity, including Lewis' and Tolkien's views on such, often and this just fit in with our theories.
43,744 posted on 06/09/2003 6:07:09 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
OK, saved it to Word.
43,745 posted on 06/09/2003 6:10:01 PM PDT by Sam Cree (HHDerelict)
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To: Sam Cree
Hang on... do you want the whole thing? I can freepmail it to you. You've got less than half there!
43,746 posted on 06/09/2003 6:11:01 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Overtaxed
Yes, makes sense...ever notice how you smell when you drink alot of grapefruit juice? Not bad, but maybe it really helps.
43,747 posted on 06/09/2003 6:11:51 PM PDT by Sam Cree (HHDerelict)
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To: JenB
Yes, didn't know that was only half, thanks, JenB.
43,748 posted on 06/09/2003 6:12:27 PM PDT by Sam Cree (HHDerelict)
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To: Sam Cree
Banana draws 'em. I avoid bananas during skeeter season.
43,749 posted on 06/09/2003 6:15:16 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Sam Cree
Sent.
43,750 posted on 06/09/2003 6:16:25 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Overtaxed
Raw garlic - Day 2. It's getting better. :)

Any reaction from the co-workers?

I forgot to go get any citrus today.

43,751 posted on 06/09/2003 6:27:19 PM PDT by Wneighbor (this is my new tag line)
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To: Wneighbor
I'm not eating it around them. Cat doesn't seem too thrilled, though. :)
43,752 posted on 06/09/2003 6:29:32 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Dawntreader
You're the only one I haven't heard from!
43,753 posted on 06/09/2003 6:32:18 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD FMM)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Good grief 153 posts? After a slow day, looks like y'all woke up...
43,754 posted on 06/09/2003 6:39:15 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Overtaxed
Hmm... raw garlic at work... hmmm, might be a good idea.
43,755 posted on 06/09/2003 6:39:35 PM PDT by JenB
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To: ksen
Seriously, here's hoping that Jr does well tonight.

He had a pretty good game. Struck out and stole first AND second on a dropped ball. The guy right after him did the same thing. But we still lost.

One of the mom's said when I got they're "they're all distracted tonite..." Took all I could do to not say "it's because they were watching movies all day..." But I dint (even though her kid was one of the ones who opted for the dance).

I know. Take a deep breath. Let it go....

43,756 posted on 06/09/2003 6:42:07 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: JenB; Overtaxed
Hmm... raw garlic at work... hmmm, might be a good idea.

That was exactly what I was thinking.

43,757 posted on 06/09/2003 6:42:32 PM PDT by Wneighbor (this is my new tag line)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Wneighbor
I was just very baaaaaad to you in a freepmail. I hope you don't own a box fan...

(you did however, set me up)
43,758 posted on 06/09/2003 6:43:30 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands
I know. Take a deep breath. Let it go....

I'm with ya buddy. And chuckling. Read your post while watching a preaching video on grace. showing grace to others. huh.

43,759 posted on 06/09/2003 6:44:29 PM PDT by Wneighbor (this is my new tag line)
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To: Overtaxed; Wneighbor; Sam Cree
Why is it that kids are being pushed to grow up fast yet they aren't considered "grown" until their 20's?

I figger it's because we try to make them "adults" at 12 and when they're 22 and moved out of the house, they realized how much they missed being 12.

43,760 posted on 06/09/2003 6:45:16 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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