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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!
Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!
Journey to the Cross-roads
The Two Towers Edition
Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)
Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.
TOPICS: The Hobbit Hole
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Lets keep them honorable.You're right. Whatever else the Dwarves may be, they have always been honorable.
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Well, there was that time about the Silmarils.......
1,881
posted on
12/23/2002 1:22:21 PM PST
by
ksen
To: Overtaxed
That will be the name of my new thread! Grey Havens indeed! - I hope I haven't missed the last boat!
To: HairOfTheDog
I think you have about a year.
To: ican'tbelieveit
Yes, and a lot needs to happen in that year.
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
LOL! That came out of the dwarf version of Playboy. She's the kind of she-dwarf the he-dwarfs wish they had around.
To: All
Gotta run!
See everyone later (if I can get online...grumble, grumble).
To: All
Look! I found a smilie that's playing correctly!
To: HairOfTheDog
Hi, Elf-friend! I have returned, like Glorfindel or something.
1,888
posted on
12/23/2002 3:44:16 PM PST
by
JenB
To: LinnieBeth
I have added you to my pinglist. Welcome aboard.
To: JenB
To: ksen
Merry Christmas Jame. 
Thank you and Merry Christmas to you!
To: HairOfTheDog
Ewww!
1,892
posted on
12/23/2002 4:07:00 PM PST
by
JenB
To: JenB
The Gandalf is cool, the others need work, and more neck.
There is a somewhat long article by one of the TORN contributors about Faramir. Have you read it? - Since there has been so much talk of it, I was thinking of posting it as a thread.
TheOneRing.net™ | News Archives
To: HairOfTheDog
It's a good analysis but doesn't emphasis Faramir's gentler qualities as much as Tolkien does. The writer is obviously trying to excuse the movie and he does a good job but there are some things left out. Still, thank you for pointing me to it. There are some new things for me to think on...
1,894
posted on
12/23/2002 4:23:39 PM PST
by
JenB
To: HairOfTheDog
That is a pretty good analysis. If you wouldn't mind, I would like to post it as a Daily Tolkien article.
To: JameRetief
Are you going to continue to post the articles over Christmas?
1,896
posted on
12/23/2002 4:32:47 PM PST
by
JenB
To: JenB
I will be posting tomorrow and Friday, but not on Christmas day, nor the day after. The Faramir post would be tomorrow's Daily Tolkien.
To: JameRetief
OK.... You post it tomorrow then! I don't mind at all.
To: All
TORN has compiled a shortlist of changes/deletions in The Tow Towers:
Since filming went underway in 2000, The Two Towers has seen it's storyline been changed endless times due to necessity, time constraints, negative fan feedback and even by order of New Line. Hence, a huge chunk of material was either unused in the final theatrical cut of the movie or scrapped entirely. Here is just a list of some of the scenes that may or may not feature in The Two Towers Extended Edition next year.
• Arwen running up to Elrond's veranda in Rivendell in fear, saying 'You have the gift of foresight...'
• Gandalf the White telling Aragorn at night before Helm's Deep that Sauron 'fears what you may become'
• Faramir discovering Boromir's horn cloven in two as it washes ashore
• Arwen walking up towards the shards of Narsil while wearing a cloak similar to the one which she wears while leaving Rivendell
• Further shots of Merry and Pippin being guarded by the Uruk-hai at night
• Further shots of Eowyn standing outside the Golden Hall of Edoras
• Elrond stating the alliance of Elves and Men 'is over'
• Sam making greater use of the Elven rope given to him by Galadriel while travelling to Mordor with Frodo
• Further shots of Arwen and Aragorn together in the past
• The storyline of Arwen taking part in Helm's Deeep, including shots of the Rivendell Elves arriving at Lothlorien and Arwen sleeping under falling leaves, was completely scrapped
• Further shots of Eomer's travels in the hunt of orcs or after being banished from Rohan
• Bilbo discussing the departure of Rivendell with Elrond and Arwen
• Saruman claiming he will soon become 'more powerful than the Lord of the Rings himself'
• Several scenes involving the two hobbits and Treebeard, including Merry and Pippin drinking the Ent Draught
• A flashback of Gollum killing his friend upon discovering the One Ring while fishing on the River Anduin
• A beautiful soliloquy from Faramir post-battle with the Haradrim, where he asks rethorically 'I wonder what his name was, where his home is, his family. Was he really evil at heart, or did the Dark Lord deceive him, as he has deceived so many others? What lies or threats led him on the long march from his home?'
To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks.
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