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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


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To: Overtaxed
no one's had a shuttle program before so all these expected shuttle lifetime numbers are just guesses.

Yeah - Every mission they knew twice as much about it as they did before. And this will teach us lessons too. Not who to blame I hope, but what we could have done that would have been better, if anything.

11,061 posted on 02/01/2003 9:00:41 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; JenB; Sam Cree; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; rightwingreligiousfanatic; All
Just got to my Mom's house where we can watch the cable coverage. I feel like Sam when he says, "It makes me sad."

I first thought it was sabotage given the Israeli astronaut until I heard that Columbia was 207,000 feet up and going 12,000mph.

It has to be a tragic accident. But that won't stop the Michael Rivero types from spreading the latest conspiracy theory. I hope we don't see pictures of Muslims dancing in the streets over this.
11,062 posted on 02/01/2003 9:02:12 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: 2Jedismom
Wow.... that is something amazing 2J...
11,063 posted on 02/01/2003 9:02:57 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
...it's the Greens who seize tragedies and - oh, it makes me sick.

Dom and Viggo better keep their mouths shut over this.

11,064 posted on 02/01/2003 9:03:30 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: ksen
Hello Kevin....
11,065 posted on 02/01/2003 9:04:39 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I saved what I could.
11,066 posted on 02/01/2003 9:05:36 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: ksen
????

Are we doing the villian's job for them so they don't even have to?
11,067 posted on 02/01/2003 9:07:29 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Every mission they knew twice as much about it as they did before.

Let's hope so!

But then again, with the Challenger disaster back in 1986 junion engineers from Morton Thiokol warned that the o-rings might fail at low temperatures and they launched anyway.

11,068 posted on 02/01/2003 9:07:54 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
I tried to figure out how to save it. What did you do?
11,069 posted on 02/01/2003 9:08:12 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
Hi Kevin. nice to see you.
11,070 posted on 02/01/2003 9:09:28 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: HairOfTheDog
So far just a series of screen captures...
11,071 posted on 02/01/2003 9:13:28 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Are we doing the villian's job for them so they don't even have to?

What?

11,072 posted on 02/01/2003 9:14:40 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: Sam Cree
Hi Barry, sorry it took a national tragedy to get me online today. ;^(
11,073 posted on 02/01/2003 9:15:25 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: Overtaxed
I know they launched anyway!

They thought it would work. Don't forget that. They didn't think people would die. They weighed, debated and fussed over every single piece, part, rivet and o-ring used building that shuttle. They weighed pros and cons and made decisions. Risky decisions... Weighty decisions, My job isn't that hard. And I have respect for people to risk themselves by taking jobs like that.

We ask them to do their best and build us a shuttle. Loyalty doesn't mean squat if we only support them when they are right. If that is how we are gonna be, then who would ever take that challenge?
11,074 posted on 02/01/2003 9:15:50 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; JenB; Sam Cree
Remember that show with the junkyard guy who built a rocket ship in his backyard? I think it was on in the late 70's or early 80's.
11,075 posted on 02/01/2003 9:18:17 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Gimme a break! There's a "lady" on FoxNews trying to blame this on budget cuts. So guess who would get the blame? Yup, the Republicans.

Boy they never miss a trick, do they?
11,076 posted on 02/01/2003 9:23:21 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh I support space exploration good or bad. What I don't want to support are the bureacracies and mismanagement. I don't like cost-cutting and "bottom line-isms" when it puts peoples lives in danger needlessly. Space exploration is dangerous enough without some pencil-pushers ignoring valid safety concerns.
11,077 posted on 02/01/2003 9:23:40 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: ksen
Yes, the talking is what makes me nuts. On MSNBC now they are showing close-ups of people standing around pointing at the debris they aren't supposed to go near. ;~D
11,078 posted on 02/01/2003 9:25:59 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
It was Kay Bailey Hutchison! What is she thinking? We need to get over the mindset that says tragedy is caused by too little government spending.
11,079 posted on 02/01/2003 9:25:59 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog
NASA administrator to speak at 1:00pm EST.
11,080 posted on 02/01/2003 9:27:27 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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