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Confederate culture too
The News & Observer ^ | November 24, 2002 | Jonathan Zimmerman

Posted on 12/02/2002 7:26:36 PM PST by stainlessbanner

NEW YORK--If you think you understand America's culture wars, try this quick quiz. Who said, "The days of one-sided, ignorant, and racist attacks are done. We will honor our heritage and speak out against the genocide of our culture"?

A) A black leader in Lansing, Mich.

B) A Latino spokeswoman in San Jose, Calif.

C) A white activist in Spotsylvania, Va.

The correct answer is "C," the white activist. He's Johnny Hostler, chair of the A.P. Hill Chapter of Virginia's League of the South. Hostler posted his remarks on the Internet last spring to condemn Virginia Gov. Mark R. Warner, after Warner refused to designate April as Confederate History Month.

Blacks and women both have months to celebrate their heritage, other white Virginians argued. Don't Confederates deserve the same privilege?

Warner must hope to avoid the fate of Georgia's Roy Barnes and South Carolina's Jim Hodges, who both lost gubernatorial re-election bids this month amid controversies over the Confederate flag. Hodges backed the removal of the flag from atop his statehouse; Barnes supported a new state flag that minimized a Confederate emblem.

Across the South, meanwhile, the imbroglio has entered public schools through a different medium: teen fashion. Earlier this fall, a high school principal in Canton, Ga., barred students from wearing a popular line of Confederate-themed clothing. About 100 students defied the ban, noting that blacks wear clothes and hats with the "X" symbol of Malcolm X. Why shouldn't whites be allowed to wear their own X -- the Confederate battle flag?

In fact, the Canton school district also bans clothing with Malcolm X symbols. But whites' effort to invoke Malcolm signals an important shift in Southern sensibilities. For more than a century, white Southerners sought to impose a single ethos upon schools and communities. Now they're much more likely to argue in the idiom of modern multiculturalism, demanding "equal time" for their distinct "culture."

This maneuver closely echoes the recent strategy of anti-evolutionists, who have become fervent multiculturalists in their own right. Following the Scopes trial of 1925, fundamentalist and evangelical Christians demanded state bans upon evolution instruction in the schools. When the Supreme Court struck down such measures in the 1960s, however, activists began demanding equal time for so-called "creationist" views.

Even Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell now says that John T. Scopes should not have been convicted at Dayton, Tenn., because Scopes was merely trying to teach "both sides" -- evolution and creation.

Most of my fellow liberals will scoff at such claims, insisting that conservatives are co-opting pluralist language in order to promote their own political agenda. But I would urge liberals to view the new right-wing multiculturalism as an opportunity, not as a threat.

Don't celebrate -- analyze

First, the right-wing challenge should force us to reflect upon our own tendency to applaud -- rather than to analyze -- racial and ethnic history. Much of left-wing multiculturalism simply praises women and minorities, as Southern whites correctly sense. If blacks, Hispanics and Asians are celebrated in schools, Southerners ask, why not celebrate white Confederates?

The answer is that schools should not "celebrate" anyone, if by that term we mean uncritical homage. No group of people -- not even victims of horrid oppression -- has a monopoly on virtue. Black Africans participated in the slave trade; Spanish conquistadors enslaved and slaughtered Native Americans; and Native Americans slaughtered each other, sometimes as part of human-sacrifice rituals.

By ignoring or neglecting these facts, we clear the way for white Southerners to airbrush out their own foibles -- particularly their perpetuation of slavery after the American Revolution.

Second, right-wing multiculturalism provides a tremendous chance to promote the inquiry-based pedagogy that many liberals say they want.

According to the standard liberal critique, American education is too "fact-driven": especially as standardized testing increases, liberals complain, schools require children to recall information rather than to deliberate, analyze and explain it.

What better way to promote inquiry and discussion than to engage the conservative point of view? According Johnny Hostler's League of the South, for example, the Civil War was not really about slavery; instead, it was a war for Southern independence, modeled after the same principles as the revolution itself: freedom, equality and self-determination.

Imagine a high school history class that really debated this proposition. The class would have to examine the origins of slavery in North America; the drafting of the Constitution, which deemed each slave three-fifths of a person; the industrialization of the North; the extension of slavery into the West; the rise of sectionalism in the South; and so on.

In a full and fair discussion, I believe, most students would recognize that the defense of slavery was integral -- not incidental -- to the Confederate cause. Johnny Hostler believes otherwise, of course. Rather than celebrating our respective "cultures," then, let's subject them to analysis and argument in American schools. And may the best argument win.

Copyright 2002 by The News & Observer Pub. Co.


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To: stainlessbanner
well said!

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61 posted on 12/04/2002 9:42:14 AM PST by stand watie
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To: MacDorcha
also well said!

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62 posted on 12/04/2002 9:43:32 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Colt .45
The confederate constitution, on the other hand, was written because of slavery. And still you had a despot the likes of Jefferson Davis ignoring it at his whim, all the while trampling on the very concept of states rights that the south was supposed to be supporting. Look to your own house before complaining about another.
63 posted on 12/04/2002 9:44:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Hank Kerchief
we understand. it's just that most of us southrons are too polite to point out your arrogant stupidity.

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64 posted on 12/04/2002 9:46:05 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Gowelisgi
well said!

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65 posted on 12/04/2002 9:48:09 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Colt .45
also well said!

the 3rd National flies 24/7 at my home & business.

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66 posted on 12/04/2002 9:51:00 AM PST by stand watie
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To: BurkeCalhounDabney
EXACTLY! and furthermore it once & for all time proved that the shysters at the splc & the naaLcp cannot be trusted to keep their word, either orally or in writing!

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67 posted on 12/04/2002 9:53:47 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Non-Sequitur
when are YOU going to start admitting the TRUTH about our 15,000+ MURDERED POWs at Point Lookout DEATH Camp?

or admitting the THOUSANDS of damnyankee WAR CRIMES committed against innocent civilians by the bluebelly army?

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68 posted on 12/04/2002 9:57:23 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
...we understand. it's just that most of us southrons are too polite to point out your arrogant stupidity...

Thanks for your graceous comment."

Hank

69 posted on 12/04/2002 11:05:00 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Non-Sequitur
when are you going to talk bout the codes the Africans had that sold the blacks to America in the first place?
70 posted on 12/04/2002 1:49:57 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: Non-Sequitur
We seceded, and you guys invaded, which gives US the right to complain. However, we didn't ask any help from the Yankees to settle our problems....we would have done so quite well I am sure.

(That is if a Yankee Government had minded their OWN Biz instead of ours!)

For a WLAT free Dixie!
71 posted on 12/04/2002 3:44:47 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
We seceded, and you guys invaded, which gives US the right to complain.

There's the little matter of you shooting up our fort and declaring war on us, not the other way around. Don't start what you're not prepared to finish.

I notice you didn't have any comments about the tyranny of Jeff Davis and his criminal actions of ignoring the confederate constitution. All part of 'settling your own problems'?

72 posted on 12/04/2002 3:52:11 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

In your opinion.

There you go again skirting the issue. Which is precisely why your replies are condemned to my oubliette, my place of forgetting.

73 posted on 12/04/2002 8:14:11 PM PST by Colt .45
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To: Colt .45
There you go again, ignoring the great crimes of Jefferson Davis while acting all put out at the lesser alleged crimes of Abe Lincoln. I guess that Jeff Davis is the dirty little secret that y'all are too ashamed to talk about.
74 posted on 12/05/2002 3:31:10 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: MacDorcha
when are you going to talk bout the codes the Africans had that sold the blacks to America in the first place?

I wasn't aware that they had any codes, I just assumed that they went ahead and did it because the king or chief or whatever said to. But without the demand there wouldn't be any need for the supply, would there?

75 posted on 12/05/2002 4:18:43 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
You have got it exactly right....whatever Jeff Davis did or didn't do, it was OUR problem. NOT YOURS.

Southerners have always resented Yankees interfering in their affairs, and this is just another example.

If the Yankee abolitionists had kept their noses out of our business, maybe things would have been different.

And...it was our fort...you Yankee types should have left while you had the chance.
76 posted on 12/05/2002 5:04:37 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
You have got it exactly right....whatever Jeff Davis did or didn't do, it was OUR problem. NOT YOURS.

So why do y'all keep complaining about Lincoln?

And...it was our fort...you Yankee types should have left while you had the chance.

No, it was the property of the government of the United States and it did not choose to leave. The confederacy had no legal claim to it.

77 posted on 12/05/2002 5:07:41 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
sure their would. they didnt have a thing called "free market" over their at the time. they captured their people for trade so the chiefs could gain money. the chief made all the calls, but that was the policy.

also, they did have a type of code. it was one for war. any captured from an enemy tribe were considered property of the winner. the winner could do as they pleased with the loser (by bloodlines, most slaves were slaves over there AND over here for generations.) so, yes, they had codes... if you want to be technical, thats probably all they had. no laws, since it was just tribes roaming. no central laws. just a way of life, or code.
78 posted on 12/05/2002 6:16:43 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: Non-Sequitur
the DIFFERENCE is lincoln was a WAR CRIMINAL, tyrant & racist. end of story.

Jeff Davis, for all of his faults (those without sin may throw the first stone.), was NONE of those.

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79 posted on 12/05/2002 2:19:38 PM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
Jeff Davis, for all of his faults (those without sin may throw the first stone.), was NONE of those.

Quite the contrary, Davis was a tyrant, he was most certainly a racist, and if Lincoln was a war criminal because of the actions committed by the Union Army then surely Davis was one because of actions committed by members of the confederate army as well.

80 posted on 12/05/2002 2:37:22 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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