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AMERICA-The Right Way (Day 668)[Remember the Trade Center, Pentagon and Flight 93]
ALL OF US | 19 November 2002 | All of US

Posted on 11/19/2002 2:11:01 AM PST by Neets

President Bush called wavering lawmakers Monday in hopes of thwarting a Democratic drive to force changes in the homeland security bill, but he lost the support of the senator who vied with him for the 2000 Republican presidential nomination.~~~~ John McShame

A federal court ruling ensures that the Justice Department can take full advantage of broad new surveillance powers to track suspected spies and terrorists, Attorney General John Ashcroft says.

Iraq continued firing at U.S. and British patrol planes Monday, and an Iraqi warplane penetrated an area in southern Iraq that is off-limits to the Iraqi air force.

MSNBC executives, under pressure from corporate owner General Electric to improve ratings, are likely to cancel "Donahue" by year's end, according to published reports

Actor James Coburn dies at 74.

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail! [President Bush]


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: atrw; forfreedom; musings; news
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To: Holding Our Breath
I really hope you guys will be down for Thanksgiving so we can get together, even if it's just for a quick drink or cawffee. Let me know as your plans develop.
101 posted on 11/19/2002 6:24:12 AM PST by Neets
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To: Holding Our Breath; Neets
Well, it rained all weekend, and I wasn't too impressed by the brunch, but overall the weekend was pretty good ;-)...next time I am goin' to Manayunk for brunch...I know that is good....
102 posted on 11/19/2002 6:24:21 AM PST by Bitwhacker
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To: Bitwhacker; Neets
Aw, Manayunk, land of the hils! Where do you go in Manayunk?

Neets, I just told Bit that Susan decided the drive wasn't too much for her. She really wants to come to Va for Thanksgiving. I hope we can plan on visiting in Pa some other time soon.

103 posted on 11/19/2002 6:26:58 AM PST by Holding Our Breath
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To: Dog
Dog, You are not to far from King of Prussia, I know. Maybe you can join us for drinks, or coffee, or an Amstel light or whatever... when we finally get it together.
104 posted on 11/19/2002 6:29:02 AM PST by Holding Our Breath
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To: Bitwhacker; Holding Our Breath
Yea, "overall"...hmmmm (hehehehe)

AWWWW HOB...well next time you go let me know.

I usually travel down there every other weekend..
105 posted on 11/19/2002 6:30:07 AM PST by Neets
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To: lysie; Neets
Got what?
106 posted on 11/19/2002 6:32:26 AM PST by Bitwhacker
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To: Guenevere; kassie; Miss Marple; All
Oh good I'm glad that picture didn't show. After doing a little research..I'm not sure if Mindy and Dean did get married...engaged but possibly broke up.

I'm so behind on this sort of stuff. Looks like I need to go to the hairdresser's to read People and Us. LOL

107 posted on 11/19/2002 6:36:02 AM PST by lysie
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To: Bitwhacker; lysie
"IT"...YOU know.
108 posted on 11/19/2002 6:36:56 AM PST by Neets
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To: lysie
#99...Oh shoot, your link doesn't work with me.

I didn't know he married her???.....I thought they broke up!

When did this happen?

109 posted on 11/19/2002 6:37:38 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Bitwhacker
Got what?

Milk.

110 posted on 11/19/2002 6:38:22 AM PST by lysie
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To: Guenevere
See my above post. I must get to the hairdresser..soon. LOL
111 posted on 11/19/2002 6:39:40 AM PST by lysie
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To: Holding Our Breath; Neets
I used to like Thomas', and Sonoma, but now I really, REALLY like Jake's....
112 posted on 11/19/2002 6:39:53 AM PST by Bitwhacker
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To: Neets
The soon-to-be retired person makes her last grand appearance on Thursday of this week. Not sure how things will be once she leaves, but my boss is FINALLY now seeing who the one person in the office was that did not allow everyone to get along. I am looking forward to her departure in a strange sort of way.

I have found that whenever a certain personality type leaves, that one of the existing people moves in to take over their function - though not neccessarily at the same level of competence.

113 posted on 11/19/2002 6:40:02 AM PST by lepton
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To: Guenevere; Molly Pitcher
How does workmans comp....forget someone needs PT....answer me that question???

Waiting to hear back when I start PT and when I can go back to work..

It seems the doctor's office never faxed workmans comp the paper work....grrrrrr!!!!

114 posted on 11/19/2002 6:40:44 AM PST by Dog
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To: lysie; *ATRW
Oh shoot.....I was hoping they DID get married....

..but I think I'm ahead of you on the People Mag front, LOL.

Last I heard, they broke up!

Time to go to exercise class.....

115 posted on 11/19/2002 6:41:12 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Dog; Molly Pitcher
#114...What?.....you talking to me?.....ME?

I haven't 'outside worked' in a long while......
sorry, can't answer your question :(

116 posted on 11/19/2002 6:43:22 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Neets
..i just loved the taste of the batter before it was cooked.

Oh, is that the secret? Well, it's not one of the real fruitcakes anyway - only a mere replica.

117 posted on 11/19/2002 6:45:32 AM PST by lepton
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To: lepton
Well when this certain personality type leaves..I'll be the only one left.
118 posted on 11/19/2002 6:52:51 AM PST by Neets
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To: Bitwhacker
Ok...Jakes it is...I trust your judgement.
119 posted on 11/19/2002 6:53:28 AM PST by Neets
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To: Dog; Miss Marple
Here is a little hint about how things work.

Especially in an extra session, if people opposed to something have the votes to win, they just vote. They bring up the name for confirmation and the person is not confirmed. The opponents go to the people who wanted the person turned down and say, see we blocked that person.

If they don't have the votes they bluster and scream, and raise all kinds of heck, then when the person is confirmed they send the congressional record including their rants and raves to "People for the American Way", etc. The cover letter says your money was not wasted we did all we could... sorry we were not successful.

If the Democrats were certain they had the votes to stop homeland security they would bring it up and vote it down. They don't have. But they hope too. They have CNBC and the rest of the media trying to whip up public support.

If they have the votes to beat you, they just vote and beat you, if they don't have the votes they try to get them. But getting them is hard.

Right now they are trying to make the world safe for Democrats to oppose homeland security. What they are really doing is fixing it so if they lose badly in 2004, they will have zero clout on anything. They may not know that, but I betcha it is true.

I think Democrats actually believe that Dubya would be a nice guy if he gets it all in 2004. They ought to ask Bob Smith what happens if you cross Dubya. .. and Smith was a Republican.

McCain is out their playing media hero. I think he is just playing part time media hero. He either no longer has further political ambitions or he is just flat out stupid.

One big fault in my analysis is I tend to believe people act out of logic and desire to be in the game. I felt that Keyes would be bright enough right after the New Hampshire primary to jump on the Bush Bandwagon. They media would have been full of Keyes give South Carolina to Bush..etc. He would have been set to be a Republican hero. Instead like many an old Key before him, he ends up under the doormat. McCain cannot resist being on camera NOW. Looking back, that seems to be his modus operandi.

It will be very interesting to see this work out. It sounds like they are going to pass a modified bill, and then it has to to to conference committee. A modified bill gives them cover.

But if they had the votes to do it they would have done it last week and they didn't. It is certainly too close to call. But you can bet hardball is being played.

I do think one of the the first things I would have the Senate do is reverse the environment loophole DAschle got through for South Dakota. Bush should be even able to get Nancy Pelosi's vote for that one. That would make his Daschle Hammit in a heartbeat.

Or as Daddy used to say, in politics the way to a South Dakotan's heart is thorough his butt with your boot.


120 posted on 11/19/2002 7:06:26 AM PST by Common Tator
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