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Evidence Builds for DeLorenzo's Lincoln
October 16, 2002 | Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 11/11/2002 1:23:27 PM PST by l8pilot

Evidence Builds for DiLorenzo’s Lincoln by Paul Craig Roberts

In an excellent piece of historical research and economic exposition, two economics professors, Robert A. McGuire of the University of Akron and T. Norman Van Cott of Ball State University, have provided independent evidence for Thomas J. Dilorenzo’s thesis that tariffs played a bigger role in causing the Civil War than slavery.

In The Real Lincoln, DiLorenzo argues that President Lincoln invaded the secessionist South in order to hold on to the tariff revenues with which to subsidize Northern industry and build an American Empire. In "The Confederate Constitution, Tariffs, and the Laffer Relationship" (Economic Inquiry, Vol. 40, No. 3, July 2002), McGuire and Van Cott show that the Confederate Constitution explicitly prohibits tariff revenues from being used "to promote or foster any branch of industry." By prohibiting subsidies to industries and tariffs high enough to be protective, the Confederates located their tax on the lower end of the "Laffer curve."

The Confederate Constitution reflected the argument of John C. Calhoun against the 1828 Tariff of Abominations. Calhoun argued that the U.S. Constitution granted the tariff "as a tax power for the sole purpose of revenue – a power in its nature essentially different from that of imposing protective or prohibitory duties."

McGuire and Van Cott conclude that the tariff issue was a major factor in North-South tensions. Higher tariffs were "a key plank in the August 1860 Republican party platform. . . . northern politicians overall wanted dramatically higher tariff rates; Southern politicians did not."

"The handwriting was on the wall for the South," which clearly understood that remaining in the union meant certain tax exploitation for the benefit of the north.

October 16, 2002

Dr. Roberts [send him mail] is John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy and Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and a former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions Evidence Builds for DiLorenzo’s Lincoln by Paul Craig Roberts

In an excellent piece of historical research and economic exposition, two economics professors, Robert A. McGuire of the University of Akron and T. Norman Van Cott of Ball State University, have provided independent evidence for Thomas J. Dilorenzo’s thesis that tariffs played a bigger role in causing the Civil War than slavery.

In The Real Lincoln, DiLorenzo argues that President Lincoln invaded the secessionist South in order to hold on to the tariff revenues with which to subsidize Northern industry and build an American Empire. In "The Confederate Constitution, Tariffs, and the Laffer Relationship" (Economic Inquiry, Vol. 40, No. 3, July 2002), McGuire and Van Cott show that the Confederate Constitution explicitly prohibits tariff revenues from being used "to promote or foster any branch of industry." By prohibiting subsidies to industries and tariffs high enough to be protective, the Confederates located their tax on the lower end of the "Laffer curve."

The Confederate Constitution reflected the argument of John C. Calhoun against the 1828 Tariff of Abominations. Calhoun argued that the U.S. Constitution granted the tariff "as a tax power for the sole purpose of revenue – a power in its nature essentially different from that of imposing protective or prohibitory duties."

McGuire and Van Cott conclude that the tariff issue was a major factor in North-South tensions. Higher tariffs were "a key plank in the August 1860 Republican party platform. . . . northern politicians overall wanted dramatically higher tariff rates; Southern politicians did not."

"The handwriting was on the wall for the South," which clearly understood that remaining in the union meant certain tax exploitation for the benefit of the north.

October 16, 2002

Dr. Roberts [send him mail] is John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy and Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and a former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions


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To: GOPcapitalist
They were Soviets. They were puppets, if they weren't buried in Katyin forest.

Walt

541 posted on 11/15/2002 3:10:00 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: GOPcapitalist
Thanks. Mom will get a kick out of this pic. But I was just a little tiny baby in 1984.

Walt

542 posted on 11/15/2002 3:12:34 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
They were Soviets. They were puppets, if they weren't buried in Katyin forest.

Correction: They WEREN"T Soviets.

Walt

543 posted on 11/15/2002 3:16:42 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: GOPcapitalist
What gives?

Just trying to fit in with the theme of the day and stay relevant.

As I recall, I don't think you demonstrated any real "embrace" by Marx of Lincoln's "agenda," unless by "agenda" you mean the end of chattel slavery, something that many others would also support.

544 posted on 11/15/2002 4:06:55 PM PST by x
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To: stand watie
i.e. of starvation, intentional denial of medical care, denial of housing, of wounds & of disease

The more you talkt the more is sounds like Andersonville.

545 posted on 11/15/2002 4:29:49 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: x
As I recall, I don't think you demonstrated any real "embrace" by Marx of Lincoln's "agenda,"

Sure I did. Just take a look at any of Marx's many essays in support of the Northern cause during the war.

546 posted on 11/15/2002 6:38:37 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: groanup
There's a tendency today to think of the Confederates as victims or as people like you and me. But Confederate elites, like all elites and more than some, were interested in power for themselves. They saw slavery as the basis of their civization, or of all civilization. They were convinced that slavery was threatened and that slave territory ought to be expanded. Indeed, many thought that slavery would die if it were geographically confined. Some dreamed of an American slaveholding empire stretching to include Mexico, Central America, or the Caribbean islands. And they had an exaggerated idea of the Western world's hunger for cotton and the power that it would give them. I don't think it's out of place to call them "extremists" or "radicals."

Of course there were others who went along because of fears or regional and familial loyalties. And the radicals failed in the Upper South before Sumter. It was chiefly the fact that war was already beginning that drew VA, TN, NC and AR into the rebellion and Confederacy. But ignoring the radical element among the secessionists creates a distorted picture. What many find objectionable about confederate apologists is the exaggerated contrast between the evil, power-hungry Union and the poor, dutiful, victimized Confederates. An admission that there were power-hungry and aggressive secessionists and Confederates would go some way to providing a fuller understanding of that time.

547 posted on 11/15/2002 6:42:03 PM PST by x
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To: WhiskeyPapa
But I was just a little tiny baby in 1984.

So that would put you in...what...high school about right now? Figures.

548 posted on 11/15/2002 6:43:55 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: andy_card
Oh do us ALL a favor...expell us PLEASE!



549 posted on 11/15/2002 7:31:37 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: andy_card
I think you know very well what context I meant, or you are more stupid than I thought....


Yep....they thought Ben Franklin was nutty too....

You just can't STAND the fact that it JUST MAY HAPPEN....
550 posted on 11/15/2002 7:33:59 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Non-Sequitur
That is a LOW blow...even for you nonny....

Clinton may be Southern born, but we all know where his heart is....in New York!
551 posted on 11/15/2002 7:35:41 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Ditto
Free Dixie...a possibility....your *ss? NOT LIKELY!
552 posted on 11/15/2002 7:38:23 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: andy_card
Wirz was innocent you ignoramus.....even leading Northerners knew he was being framed...



Jeeez....
553 posted on 11/15/2002 7:46:34 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Nationalism and socialism are opposites."

"This is SO funny!!!

And you are so confused and ignorant. What is "opposite" about Nationalism and Socialism? Can you spell "Nazionalsocialismus"? Probably not., but even you can probably spell the familiar shortened version "Nazi".

554 posted on 11/15/2002 8:05:11 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: Ditto
"...for 100 years after slavery, a black man couldn't vote, walk down the street or get a damn drink of water unless he first had permission of one of your "countrymen..."

If you think those days existed only in the south; you are mistaken.
555 posted on 11/15/2002 8:08:55 PM PST by error99
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Actually, the goal of socialism is to place the means of production in the hands of the people. The Nazi's sought to achieve this through the concept of the German Volk by means of German nationalism. Nazi political theory holds that the German people are the state by means of a duty and composition of that state called the Volksgemeinschaft."
GOPCapitalist

And Hitler summarized this notion, together with his desire to unify the German speaking people, in the phrase "Ein Volk" - echoing Abraham Lincoln's shibboleth "one people", used 100 years before to further similar fascist goals.

556 posted on 11/15/2002 8:15:09 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Just stick with us Papa, we will educate you in spite of yourself.
557 posted on 11/15/2002 8:17:26 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: TexConfederate1861
Wirz was innocent you ignoramus.....even leading Northerners knew he was being framed...

Him and OJ.

558 posted on 11/15/2002 8:44:43 PM PST by andy_card
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To: TexConfederate1861
I think you know very well what context I meant, or you are more stupid than I thought....

Insult me some more and you just might win me over to your side, numbnut. You compared the United States of America to Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, comparisons I found to be in the poorest possible taste. If you think differently, you may just be on the wrong political forum.

Yep....they thought Ben Franklin was nutty too....

And Ben Franklin would have had nothing to do with your quixotic little crusade.

You just can't STAND the fact that it JUST MAY HAPPEN....

What, the destruction of my country? Of course I'd do everything in my power to prevent such a thing from happening. Unlike you, I'm a patriot.

559 posted on 11/15/2002 8:50:14 PM PST by andy_card
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To: Aurelius
What is "opposite" about Nationalism and Socialism?

Nationalism and Socialism are two philosophies at opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. Hitler was able to attract both ex-communist workers and their industrialist bosses, by playing both sides off against each other. Hitler's Nationalism emphasized supreme loyalty to the nation and the race, what we'd call patriotism, and the errosion to that effect of personal liberties. At the same time, he appealed to the Left by promising full employment and a redistribution of wealth. The Leftist side of the equation was more or less dropped after the 1934 Night of the Long Knives, by which time he had destroyed the Left and now needed to attract the full support of the middle classes. Certainly by the start of the Second World War, Hitler's Nazism was all Nationalism and no Socialism.

560 posted on 11/15/2002 8:58:05 PM PST by andy_card
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