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Fox talk show host calls for disbarment of Westerfield lawyers('Cause He was Really Guilty)
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Posted on 09/19/2002 7:03:56 PM PDT by Jalapeno

Fox talk show host calls for disbarment of Westerfield lawyers

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Defense lawyers for David Westerfield confer at trial.


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KEYWORDS: capitalcrimes; deathpenatly; westerfield
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To: Jalapeno
Right, it sure would be unfair.

I'm so glad Bill O'Reilly has shown outrage. What Westerfield did to a defenseless little child is the ultimate evil. All of us should be outraged.

For Feldman to try to get a dangerous pervert off through lies can not be tolerated. Feldman put on quite an act accusing innocent people. He even tried to blame the child pornography on Westerfield's son. I have nothing but contempt for Feldman. He should be disbarred.

21 posted on 09/19/2002 7:54:12 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
Yep.....

If a defense attorney got up in court and said "all right, I know my client is guilty...." and then refused to present a defense...

Said defense attorney would never get a client again. If you were accused of a crime (guilty or not) would YOU hire the guy?

Frankly amazes me that people are so incredibly stupid not to be able to think though the implications of defense attorneys not defending people they know or suspect to be guilty, and how it wouldn't work.
22 posted on 09/19/2002 7:57:05 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Jalapeno
Defense lawyer's job is to see that his client gets a FAIR trial. By California code, and probably the code in other states as well, he is NOT allowed to lie or misrepresent facts or the law. Nor is he to knowingly defame innocent people.

No ethical person can possibly defend Feldman's actions.

23 posted on 09/19/2002 8:04:02 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: demkicker
I obviously have an advantage in this debate. I've read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. As well as the California Rules of Professional Conduct.

Try it some day.

Westerfield was entitled to present a defense by our Constitution and to employ legal counsel to do so. He and his counsel were entitled to present any evidence that might show his innocence, to question the reliability of prosecution evidence and to present alternative theories, explanations, etc. of the evidence. They did so. I've seen no real evidence that defense counsel violated any ethical rules.

Slandering defense counsel as you and others are doing hardly demonstrates your moral high ground.
24 posted on 09/19/2002 8:04:20 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: Jalapeno
Defense lawyer's job is to see that his client gets a FAIR trial. By California code, and probably the code in other states as well, he is NOT allowed to lie or misrepresent facts or the law. Nor is he to knowingly defame innocent people.

No ethical person can possibly defend Feldman's actions.

25 posted on 09/19/2002 8:04:23 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Cite the California Code in question. Go on, we'll wait.
26 posted on 09/19/2002 8:06:03 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: Jalapeno
I agree with O'Reilly. I've tried and tried to fix in my mind how an attorney with a SHRED of decency could possibly work to get a child-murderer off. They were working for the plea-bargain, they knew Westerfield was guilty.

Yet after the plea-bargain fell through, their "duty" to their monster of a client was more "important" than their duty to justice?

We are a sick, sick society when so many people think this notion is perfectly fine.

27 posted on 09/19/2002 8:06:38 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Defense counsel do not have a "duty" to justice. They have a duty to represent their client. Those of you who are so ignorantly condemning defense counsel for ... *gasp* ... presenting a defense seem to have no consideration for the basic principles of our system of justice. And freaking clue how your silly opinions would destroy it.
28 posted on 09/19/2002 8:08:24 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: spqrzilla9
Which appears to be, according to warped individuals such as yourself, that if you can get away with murder, you should be able to get away with murder.
29 posted on 09/19/2002 8:09:26 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: spqrzilla9; Dante3
California rules of conduct for attorneys: Rule 5200 states:

"A lawyer shall not seek to mislead the judge, judicial officer, or jury by an artifice or false statement of fact or law."

30 posted on 09/19/2002 8:12:20 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Illbay
Evidently your only tool of debate is slander.
31 posted on 09/19/2002 8:12:51 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: John H K
If a defense attorney got up in court and said "all right, I know my client is guilty...." and then refused to present a defense...

He doesn't have to do that, and you know it. He can go to the judge, in chambers, and ask to be removed from the case on the grounds that he cannot in good conscience provide the client with adequate representation because the client is morally reprehensible to him.

O'Reilly has pointed out numerous times that this is a part of the legal code of ethics--but people are too busy making snide remarks like yours to hear it.

32 posted on 09/19/2002 8:13:47 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Jalapeno
Lawyers think they have a license to lie, in the defense of their client. It is a travesty which is very, very well rooted in our legal system.
33 posted on 09/19/2002 8:14:11 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: rintense
So list the false statements of fact. Where did Westerfield's attorney misrepresent the evidence presented in court? Where did Westerfield's attorney present a witness that he knew was testifying falsely? He didn't do any of those things.
34 posted on 09/19/2002 8:14:50 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: spqrzilla9
It was read on Bill O'Reilly's show the other day. Its code might be on Fox's website or possibly on WorldNetDaily for whom O'Reilly writes.

Also you might get the actual code at these numbers -- (they are for people to phone who want forms to file a complaint against Feldman):
In California: 800-843-9053
Out-of-state: 213-765-1200

35 posted on 09/19/2002 8:15:02 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: John H K
...and how it wouldn't work.

What wouldn't work any more, is that the GUILTY would be less likely to get adequate representation.

Too bad. Don't do the crime, then.

The system is to protect the INNOCENT. I don't give a **** about whether the GUILTY get representation or not. All their attorneys can fall asleep during the trial as far as I'm concerned.

36 posted on 09/19/2002 8:15:30 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Jalapeno
Feldman did his part in ensuring that the verdict will stick

It's counter-intuitive but true: Feldman ... is as much a hero in this grotesque morality tale as Jeff Dusek ...

defense attorneys often send subliminal messages to juries ..... Feldman seemed cold toward his client.

A final question nags.

No sh!t, a question nags!

37 posted on 09/19/2002 8:15:53 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Illbay
O'Reilly has pointed out numerous times that this is a part of the legal code of ethics--but people are too busy making snide remarks like yours to hear it.
O'Reilly is misrepresenting the ethical rule in question. As are you.

An attorney cannot use this rule to avoid representing guilty parties. There would be no defense counsel left.
38 posted on 09/19/2002 8:16:36 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: spqrzilla9
read some other threads... the code was cited....
39 posted on 09/19/2002 8:16:40 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Dante3
I know how to look up the California Rules of Professional Conduct. Its amusing that you will so boldly proclaim what they say when you've not read them.
40 posted on 09/19/2002 8:17:35 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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