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Experts see fertile ground for appeals In Westerfield Trail
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/20020919-9999_1n19appeal.html ^ | September 19, 2002 | Greg Moran

Posted on 09/19/2002 6:19:39 PM PDT by alexandria

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To: bvw
Did anyone watch Primetime tonight? While I certainly feel terrible for the V.D.'s, they still don't accept any responsibility for this tragedy. Odd, but I think even if I had lived an exemplary lifestyle, I KNOW I would feel guilt and remorse. They did go over the list of "if onlys" but every time their lifestyle came up they became angry. They have never connected the dots.

Also, the tour of the house and Danielle's bedroom was.....well, I have no words for it. As someone said earlier today, I would still be curled up in a fetal position. While I don't doubt that they are hurting, they just don't seem to hurt ENOUGH. Ranting here. Sorry if I'm off topic.
41 posted on 09/19/2002 8:39:26 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: alexandria
Chances of a successful appeal?

1% would be generous.

42 posted on 09/19/2002 8:42:13 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: bonfire
Any show of self-doubt almost always reduces market share. Would the van Dams wnat that?
43 posted on 09/19/2002 8:50:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Wonder how much they got paid for the interview?
44 posted on 09/19/2002 8:57:12 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire
And your parting gifts are.... a 1 week paid vacation in beautiful, exotic New York city.... and a make over... and a shopping spree on 5th avenue.... Wrong coast, sorry.
Beautiful downtown Los Angeles.

At least enough for another massage.
45 posted on 09/19/2002 9:17:43 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Yep. How utterly devastating to have your massage interrupted with such terrible news.
46 posted on 09/19/2002 9:25:32 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: I. Ben Hurt; spectre; alexandria; Rheo; Jaded; pinz-n-needlez; All
Redlipstick told Southflanknorth.....that her friends were over here. That's how I found you.

Same here and glad I did after being away for a few hours.

I spent some time on the Hell thread earlier in the midst of the 5 Brendateers, but the stench became ovewhelming.

First I stepped all over rabbit pellets that one of them left behind.

Next I started imagining giant red lips kissing Damon and Barb alternately.

I no sooner recovered from that when I had a nightmare about Gary Cooper's sister and her pal, Val. It was just awful.

If that wasn't enough.....a huge monster with 50 mouths was screaming something about hugzz and kizzez and typing the word "Admin Moderator" over and over.

All the while the other four danced around her in a circle holding hands and chanting something about Sabre Springs or Swings or something like that.

I barely got out alive. When I realized that the creature with 50 mouths never slept, I got worried.

Thankfully, it was just a bad dream and I woke up to the fresh air here. Phew !!!!!

47 posted on 09/19/2002 9:32:35 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: bonfire
Did you catch where Brenda says that they (she implies LE I guess) think Westerfield was hiding in the kids bathroom shower behind the curtain, waiting 'til they all went to sleep? Does anyone remember any evidence presented about this? It seems like there would be something left behind from his shoes if he in fact was in there that long. Interesting.
48 posted on 09/20/2002 3:33:23 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Bluebird Singing
Let the Van Dam's talk. The more they talk the more they sound like liars.....

They have no shame, they have no remorse.

David was in the house before? Don't they keep their doors locked? Or just how much time do they really spend in the garage?

49 posted on 09/20/2002 3:55:45 AM PDT by just me
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To: just me
Another thing... Is it Brenda's idea that David was watching all the children in the neighborhood... When did she think that.... For crying out loud she took her kids to his house.....Is Brenda reading from a script? They are the first people other then actors that needed a script to show remorse... not that they showed any.... No regrets.. remember:?
50 posted on 09/20/2002 4:42:53 AM PDT by just me
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To: Bluebird Singing
It would certainly explain about the excessive drinking. Just another one of those little quirks.
51 posted on 09/20/2002 6:35:28 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
ROFL!!
52 posted on 09/20/2002 6:47:51 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Oh Southie...what a trip! Welcome home..Most have gracefully removed themselves from the Psycho Ward. The "tablets" appear to have been rationed, it has devasting effects...shudder, shudder.

But a word to the wise, staying away from the crazies is the best policy. If they were in their right minds, they'd actually be dangerous.

Gosh, I've always tried to understand mental illness....sigh.

sw

53 posted on 09/20/2002 7:20:38 AM PDT by spectre
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To: Bluebird Singing
Oh yeah, I caught that. They make it up as they go along. How nice for the other children.

54 posted on 09/20/2002 7:42:21 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire
I suppose if you are drunk, high, aroused (daman in bed with g/f) a perp could be standing in the middle of your living room munchin' on your leftover pizza and no one would notice.
55 posted on 09/20/2002 7:50:08 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: spectre
Gosh, I've always tried to understand mental illness

.....but alas, it is always a fruitless endeavor.

It is likewise pointless to enter the asylum with any hope of rational exchange and I can't allow my pity for the sanity impaired to lure me there again.

56 posted on 09/20/2002 8:08:23 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: bonfire
Speaking of the "other" children..it's awful they are experiencing emotional turmoil in their lives, scared to sleep...afraid to take a shower.

But I was wondering? Maybe if the van dams removed Danielle's Ashes from the end-table, which are placed next to the ashes of "grandpa", it might eleviate some of the children's fears?

Can you just imagine the poor little boys when Mommie says "Kiss your sister goodnight, boys"...Not an option IMO.

sw

57 posted on 09/20/2002 8:11:44 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
That Prime Time interview only further showed the shallowness of this couple and their need to continue lying.

Does anyone with more than two brain cells believe their swinging was only twice, with a year in between the two? Uh.......sure. I guess that's why Damon and Barb were so cozy and also why Brenda told Dave about their "adult" parties. Sheeesh !! They are shameless liars

They have no remorse over their deadly misjudgments and apparently see no need to change their ways.

God help those poor little boys.

58 posted on 09/20/2002 8:26:50 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
The VD's can put on any dog and pony show they want...ordinary people can see thru them.

I am curious to know if the Aunt who was so close to Danielle has ever voiced her concern about the other children? Come to think of it, we haven't heard from Brenda's or Damon's family at all, now have we?

Don't recall any of Brenda's family in court, holding her hand? They must know something we don't, don't cha think?

sw

59 posted on 09/20/2002 9:00:35 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Don't recall any of Brenda's family in court, holding her hand? They must know something we don't, don't cha think?

Indeed it is extemely odd. One would expect grandparents and other relatives to stand by in solid support. Family that may not otherwise be all that close would show up at a time like this.

Funny too that there were not a lot of personal friends that came forward to defend them about the lifestyle stories or anything else.

Nope.......Brenda and Damon seem to be the trashy couple we have concluded all along. IMO, all the public appearances are inspired by dollar signs; not Danielle's memory.

60 posted on 09/20/2002 9:10:34 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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