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Agree with that assessment of recent Penn State teams, but this year they look better(not gonna argue that they are top 10, but top 25 makes sense). I forgot about Wisconsin. But the Big 10 also has mediocre recent history, and MSU's loss today didn't help any. Northwestern, Illinois, and Iowa are stinking up the joint.

Actually the Pac10 has come out looking the best so far(its early, though). I'm still hoping for no undefeated teams, and a dozen one loss big programs. Further expose how fradulent the BCS is. College football picks its champs the way Florida Democrats pick theirs.

ConsistentLibertarian: "Penn State has struggled since joining the Big Ten, dropping three or four conference games a year for the past half dozen years."

Diddle E. Squat: "Agree with that assessment of recent Penn State teams,"

Penn State's Big Ten record isn't quite THAT bad:


YEAR   Overall (rank)   Big Ten(rank)   Bowl  (W/L)
2001    5-6-0             4-4-0 (4)
2000    5-7-0             4-4-0 (5)
1999   10-3-0  (11)       5-3-0 (4)      Alamo    W    
1998    9-3-0 (15/17)     5-3-0 (5)      Outback  W    
1997    9-3-0 (16/17)     6-2-0 (2)      Citrus   L    
1996   11-2-0   (7)       6-2-0 (3)      Fiesta   W    
1995    9-3-0 (12/13)     5-3-0 (3)      Outback  W    
1994   12-0-0   (2)       8-0-0 (1)      Rose     W    
1993   10-2-0  (7/8)      6-2-0 (3)      Citrus   W

Only dropped out of the top 25 nationally the last 2 years,
and finished #11 as recently as 1999.
The Big Ten is a competitive conference.