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Top Performance: Build or Buy? -- It's never been easier to build your own PC.
extremetech.com ^ | May 2, 2002 | Loyd Case

Posted on 08/25/2002 2:13:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:04:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It's never been easier to build your own PC.

People from all walks of life do it. Accountants, students, housewives, and engineers build their own PCs. I had a memorable conversation with a cab driver at the last Fall Comdex (see Is DIY Dead? (Redux)) about building PCs. Components are easy to install, connection standards are robust, and operating systems are easier to set up--even Linux is easier to install than, say, Windows 3.0.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: buildorbuy; computers; diy; techindex

1 posted on 08/25/2002 2:13:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: *tech_index; Mathlete; Apple Pan Dowdy; grundle; beckett; billorites; One More Time; ...
Having just built a system I thought this might be of interest!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using tech_index

Click here: tech_index

2 posted on 08/25/2002 2:17:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Spent a little extra on an excellent Cooler-Master case:

I wanted the pull out motherboard so I could see what I was doing!

3 posted on 08/25/2002 2:21:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I build all of my own systems, not because of price (although that does factor into the equation in some decisions), but because of the control over components.

I have had one prebuilt system (from IBM) and I can't even begin to tell you the problems with it once I started trying to upgrade it. Several of my friends had similar experiences with various different manufacturers (i.e. Compaq, Dell, HP). And looking at info online, it is a perpetual and consistent problem. If someone is never (and I mean never) going to upgrade anything in their system then they might want to consider a prebuilt system, otherwise building your own is the only way to go to avoid compatibility problems.

Another thing to consider is the quality of the components (and the companies behind them) that are going into your system. CD/DVD drives are a great example. You can get some great prices on fast no-name drives now, but if you go with these cheapies you will increase the chances of having problems with software compatability. The newer copyright features on disks don't play well with many of the cheap drives causing the software to simply not function until a fix for the drive or software comes out. Notice in the prebuilt systems there is no indication of the manufacturers of some components (a good indication they aren't the highest quality). It is often the lesser-thought-of components that the "top of the line" prebuilt systems go cheap on to save costs.

Despite what the article suggests, I can still quite clearly design a system that is equal in performance to prebuilt ones for less money, or design a system that exceeds their performance for the same price.

4 posted on 08/25/2002 6:21:09 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I just rebuilt my system (again :-))

Pentium P4B 2.56Ghz (533 FSB)
Swiftech MCX-462 CPU cooler
Gigabyte GA-8IHXP 850E + ICH4 dual channel 1066 (533 bus) rambus with ATA-133 raid, USB 2.0, dual bios, etc.
1Gbyte 1066 Rambus memory
Silver rounded IDE cables
Copper rounded Floppy cable
Nvidia Geforce4 Ti 4600
Gigabit ethernet card
Digital video capture board
WinTV video recorder board
Audigy Platinuim with live drive
TDK burn proof CDR-W
16x DVD
LS-120 drive
Two 120Gbyte 7200 RPM Hard drives (raided)
One 80Gbyte 7200 RPM hard drive
Sony SDM M-81 LCD hi-rez monitor
Ultra wide SCSI card
Lian Li aluminuim case with 5 fans and a side window
Enermax 430 watt dual fan power supply
Cold cathode blue lit interior
Intel PC camera
Laser JetIII printer
Cannon USB scanner
Wingman Extreme Joystick
Hp 8 pen color plotter
Full surround sound system
1.44 floppy drive

Will smoke any prebuilt system out there. It is not terribly difficult to build a custom computer. :-)

5 posted on 08/25/2002 7:14:45 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
What's hanging off the scsi?
6 posted on 08/25/2002 7:22:35 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
What's hanging off the scsi?

A Polaroid SprintScan 35 Plus film/slide scanner. Forgot to include him. :-)

7 posted on 08/25/2002 7:28:02 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Any reason hard drives aren't Fujitsu MAMs? Capacity?
8 posted on 08/25/2002 8:16:14 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: RadioAstronomer
OK!
I have a Gigabyte GA-7VRXP Motherboard.
512mbyte of Corsair 2100 memory
TDK CD-RW 40x something I think
LG DVD Reader
WD 120G 7200 Special Edition w 8m buffer
Zip ATAPI 250 Meg drive
Floppy drive
Tekram SCSI Wide PCI card
Atlas III 10K rpm 18 Gig Drive holding Windows XP PRO
AGP card is an ATI Radeon 8500 All In Wonder DV (64 Meg)
No Raid drives although board supports it
and Sound system is USB Extigy
whenever VIA gets USB 2 drivers out @@@##@****
Creative Inspire 4300 Surround 5.1 speakers (I think )
Monitor is a new 19" Viewsonic P95f
Have a Radeon 7000 PCI card yet to put in
to drive a 17 " Viewsonic PT770 monitor!
Mouse is IBM Optical
Looking at IBM Keyboard
9 posted on 08/25/2002 9:12:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Mike Fieschko
Fujitsu MAM Series 36GB SCSI 80-Pin Hard Drive
15,000 RPM
3.5 ms Average Seek Time
5-Year Manufacturer's Warranty

Probably run hot too!

But $363?

10 posted on 08/25/2002 9:15:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: RadioAstronomer
Forgot the Processor -- AMD XP 2000+ with Volcano 7 Heatsink and cooler.
Aopen 400 W Power supply
11 posted on 08/25/2002 9:45:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mike Fieschko
Hi! :-) In a word for the drives? Price. :-)

Both hot systems! Whohoo!!

12 posted on 08/25/2002 11:12:00 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You know what? I've built dozens of systems for myself and friends.

I've had my fill.

What is not factored in to such analyses is the marginal cost of your time. If you are an unemployed garbageman, go ahead. My employer charges the government $150/hour of my time, so I use that as a 'reasonable' estimate. Would I pay a tech $150/hour to build me a super-duper PC when one from Alienware would be 95% as good? Add the cost of time to this analysis and it evaporates.

Everybody needs a hobby; if building PCs is yours, be my guest.

"A boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money." Or a PC can be a substitute 'hole' for those without access to the briny deep.

--Boris

13 posted on 08/26/2002 6:38:36 AM PDT by boris
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To: boris
I did it cause I just wanted to.

Very time consuming, but I learned stuff that is nice to know! I do have the time now.

14 posted on 08/26/2002 8:50:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: RadioAstronomer
It is not terribly difficult to build a custom computer.

I wholeheartedly agree! This summer I was about to pitch an old Gateway Pentium I That I pretty well gave up on after trying to upgrade the HD & CD. The thing just wouldn’t cooperate, so I put it in the garage to gather dust.
At a flea market one day I spotted a guy with tons of computer stuff for unbelievable prices. After a brief discussion I decided to part with $25.00 for a new mother board ( ide ) capable. Now I did this just for the kicks... I had no intention of using the system if I was successful.
I amazed myself.... after about two or three days with my hands in the guts... Wham it booted up... It was on of the most satisfying things I have ever done.
I will never buy a prebuilt again.. It did wonders for my confidence and my basic knowledge.
PS: I gave the old Gateway system to a kid in my school....You would have thought I gave him a ton of gold... That felt good too !!!!

15 posted on 08/26/2002 8:51:15 AM PDT by Robe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
that thar's a lotta big words and stuff.
16 posted on 08/26/2002 9:16:27 AM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: Charlie OK
How are things in Oklahoma?

Grew up over the border just north a bit!

Big words is the stock in trade on this forum!!! HAHA! LOL!!!

17 posted on 08/26/2002 9:34:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Robe
I will never buy a prebuilt again.. It did wonders for my confidence and my basic knowledge.

Mine too!

And I worked with Mainframe computers for a living.
But Pc's are different.

18 posted on 08/26/2002 9:35:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Robe
That's pretty cool! :-)
19 posted on 08/26/2002 3:01:09 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: boris
What is not factored in to such analyses is the marginal cost of your time.

There are two flip sides to this: (1) If something goes wrong with the machine, the manufacturer is still in business, the machine is still in 99.44% stock condition, and the manufacturer has a clue about the machines he's selling, you may be better off that route. (2) If something goes wrong with the machine and the manufacturer's out of business (or just plain useless), you may be better off if you've built it yourself since you'll know what's "really in there".

20 posted on 08/27/2002 7:01:55 PM PDT by supercat
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