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Elizabeth Smart thread, August 24-31, 2002

Posted on 08/23/2002 9:35:01 PM PDT by IamHD

I don't know when Utahn children start school, but Elizabeth should/would be starting the 9th grade, soon. :(


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To: varina davis
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/30/ricci.dead/index.html

Handyman in Elizabeth Smart case dies

August 30, 2002 Posted: 11:37 PM EDT (0337 GMT)
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (CNN) -- Richard Ricci, the one-time handyman whom police believe was involved in the abduction of teenager Elizabeth Smart, died Friday night, a family spokeswoman said.

Ricci, 48, underwent six hours of emergency surgery Wednesday to correct a spontaneous brain hemorrhage. He had been in a coma since then, and died at 7:28 p.m. Friday at University Hospital, said Nancy Pomeroy.

Police Chief Rick Dinse said Wednesday that if Ricci died, it could have a "big impact" on the Smart investigation.

"He is an individual that during our investigation, generally speaking, he never volunteered a lot of information," Dinse said.

Ricci, who was being held at the Utah State Prison in Draper for a parole violation, told a guard he was suffering from a headache Tuesday evening, said Jesse Gallegos, deputy director of the Utah Department of Corrections. When medical personnel arrived at his cell, they found Ricci unconscious.

He was taken to the prison infirmary, then airlifted to the university's hospital in Salt Lake City by helicopter, Gallegos said.

The Salt Lake County Sheriff's Department found no indication of foul play, Gallegos said.

Ricci not called a suspect

Smart was abducted at gunpoint from the family's 6,600-square-foot home in the early hours of June 5 while her parents and four brothers slept. Her younger sister, who was in the bedroom with Elizabeth, witnessed the abduction.

Ricci once worked in the Smart home as a handyman and has a 30-year criminal record.

Dinse would not characterize Ricci as a suspect, saying there were "other individuals that we are looking at that may have some kind of connection."

"They also may have some connection to Mr. Ricci," the sheriff said.

"He has told us things that we don't believe are true," Dinse said.

Police had charged Ricci with two counts of theft and one count of burglary unrelated to Smart's abduction. He had denied any involvement in the Smart case.

One of the theft counts relates to items he allegedly stole from the Smart home on or about June 6, 2001 -- nearly one year before Elizabeth disappeared.

The items taken were worth about $3,500 and included jewelry, a bottle of perfume and a wine glass filled with seashells, according to court documents.

Ricci also was charged with burglary and theft from another home in the same Federal Heights neighborhood.

A federal grand jury last month indicted Ricci in a bank robbery that took place near Salt Lake City in November 2001, along with two other men, according to the U.S. attorney's office. No one was injured in the robbery.

Ricci was charged with one count each of armed bank robbery, brandishing a firearm in the commission of a violent crime and being a felon in possession of a firearm.

881 posted on 08/30/2002 8:58:06 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Iwo Jima
A conspiracist might say something like the accomplice was a Middle Easterner who kidnapped Elizabeth for someone high in the Saudi government, say. Because of the 'sensitive nature' of such a situation to keep Ricci quiet they might set up an FBI 'medical' team at the hospital and fly Ricci there for an 'operation' by them. No reporters are allowed in, Ricci quickly has the plug pulled when in actuality he is disguised and taken to the airport to fly to South America where Angela will meet up with him in a few months. A quick cremation would be the next logical step.
883 posted on 08/30/2002 9:09:02 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Bella
Dinse would not characterize Ricci as a suspect, saying there were "other individuals that we are looking at that may have some kind of connection."

"They also may have some connection to Mr. Ricci," the sheriff said.

"He has told us things that we don't believe are true," Dinse said.

Dinse is not the sheriff...he's the SLC police chief. Spose he lied to CNN? What would his motive bbe? Or is CNN just a buncha inaccurate hacks?

884 posted on 08/30/2002 9:11:28 PM PDT by jo6pac
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To: Bella; spore-gasm
Ricci, who was being held at the Utah State Prison in Draper for a parole violation, told a guard he was suffering from a headache Tuesday evening, said Jesse Gallegos, deputy director of the Utah Department of Corrections.

First it was heavy breathing, later it was heavy breathing and a headache, now it was a headache.

"They also may have some connection to Mr. Ricci," the sheriff said.

It's been 3 months with half the detectives in the SLCPD and the FBI working on it, how long is it going to take to find out if there is some connection?

885 posted on 08/30/2002 9:19:36 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Bella
"They also may have some connection to Mr. Ricci," the sheriff said.

Actually I would guess this statement is a prelude to police readying to give us another piece of the puzzle here in the next few days.

886 posted on 08/30/2002 9:23:31 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: cherry
I guess I can join the club, I'm a native Floridian....cracker through and through.

My sense of humor can be a little warped...but oh so witty, so I guess I am a sophisticated cracker....;-p

In that case would I be a Towne Cracker or a Club Cracker?
887 posted on 08/30/2002 9:24:10 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
Haha..You're so cute. :) I would guess a "Club Cracker." (Do you party?)
888 posted on 08/30/2002 9:37:40 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Bella
Elizabeth I hope you are out there somewhere and not suffering, I hope the death of Ricci doesn't bring about a halt to the investigation.

I hope LE won't drop the ball and take the easy way out.

RIP Ricci...I hope you didn't die and take any information with you that could have helped Elizabeth.

Bless the children and keep them safe....
889 posted on 08/30/2002 9:38:12 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
Amen.
890 posted on 08/30/2002 9:40:12 PM PDT by jo6pac
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To: brigette
Thank you for the ping.

This is truly a sad circumstance to happen in light of the fact that he *may have had info* on Elizabeths location.

I can only pray that someone else knows something and will be willing to come forward.
891 posted on 08/30/2002 9:50:54 PM PDT by trussell
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To: Soccer-Dad777
"Didn't mean to come across the way you interpreted. I, too, am a free thinker, and I don't like the tacky red get-up either."

LOL...you're alright...sorry for misinterpreting your statement.

Taliban, that's a good one..is that like the Ramsey's small foreign faction?

892 posted on 08/30/2002 9:53:34 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
Lol! Had forgotten about that "small foreign faction." Wonder how they got into the Ramsey's house. Guess they had a key, too.
893 posted on 08/30/2002 10:09:31 PM PDT by Soccer-Dad777
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To: hergus
The lesson for all of us: Don't leave those house keys lie around.
894 posted on 08/30/2002 10:12:19 PM PDT by Soccer-Dad777
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To: varina davis
Yeah, even if he did murder poor Elizabeth, as Christians we do still have to forgive him. Perhaps they are meeting now in heaven, perhaps she has forgiven him already.
895 posted on 08/30/2002 10:16:34 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Sherlock
"FRackers"

I like it!!!

it's official then...we are the FRackers......lol

896 posted on 08/30/2002 10:44:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: spore-gasm
"The mechanic adds, "I know there were seat covers because the last time the car was in, I left grease on them."

just a speculative question from one of the frackers....

could Moul have worked on two jeeps?

Have you ever been so sure of something ,so positive, only to find out later that you are wrong?.....

could Moul be confused as to what jeep he was working on....especially about the seat covers...

897 posted on 08/30/2002 10:51:52 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
>>could Moul be confused as to what jeep he was working on....especially about the seat covers...

No.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/742280/posts?page=68
898 posted on 08/30/2002 10:57:19 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: brigette
what a sad way to live a life and a sad way to die.

I have mixed emotions....

anyway you look at it, he was trash....his whole live....

but I do believe in a forgiving God.....

Prayers to his family....

899 posted on 08/30/2002 10:57:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Sherlock
Hey, I think you are onto something (NOT)! ;9}
900 posted on 08/31/2002 9:36:39 AM PDT by Ditter
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