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Elizabeth Smart thread, August 24-31, 2002

Posted on 08/23/2002 9:35:01 PM PDT by IamHD

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To: jengaio
"Asked"? You mean sometimes you ASK? (-:"

Noone asked. You sure made a point to talk about your *partner* though. I, for one, do not want to hear about your perversion.

As far as Truman Capote, how_so_you.

Now, maybe you should lay off the nasty FReepmails, and quit portraying yourself one way, when in fact, you are another.

Night, FReepers!

541 posted on 08/28/2002 9:49:22 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IamHD
Night, FReepers!

Night, IamHD, good posts tonight.

543 posted on 08/28/2002 9:51:09 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: jengaio
I don't know why the SMarts were on this evening. I had forgotten Sean Hannity was in SLC, for his book tour? I wish I would have known, I would have tried to get a friend to buy me the book and get Hannity's autograph. To be really honest, I am surprised the cable shows and networks are still calling the Smarts. But it is still a mystery of Elizabeth's abduction, and perhaps that is part of the reason they called. And I forgot to watch the local news to get the latest on Ricci.

A brain aneurysm is not a good thing, a man I used to work with had one, his wife found him face down in bed, he wasn't breathing and his eyes were opened and rolled to the back of his head. She called the neighbors, they did CPR on him and he is alive, but pretty much a vegetable. It made me cry the first time I saw him. He can't talk, is in a wheelchair, but his smile is just the same. And a neighbor of mine had one also, his was caught sooner, but it is as if he has had a lobotomy. He was quite mean to his wife before the brain aneurysm, she was going to leave him, but he is really nice now because part of his brain is gone. Anyway, I hope that Ricci gets a conscience and tells what he knows. He has not been cooperative with the SLPD and their questions.

545 posted on 08/28/2002 9:54:13 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: TheDon
I've been reading various articles about this recently..they ought to investigate that angle also since it's being discussed and is possible.
546 posted on 08/28/2002 9:57:21 PM PDT by Bella
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To: TheDon
Don, I just can't read about this stuff because it upsets me to no end...I prefer to think that it is not what happened to Lizzie...

having said that,someday we will have to start looking at modern day slavery and stop burying our heads in the sand...like I am doing

547 posted on 08/28/2002 10:00:52 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
what was your take on the Marc Klass and jeanie boylan remarks...

Clearly Ed's remarks confirmed what I've thought, that police didn't want Jeanie brought in early when he contacted her so he deferred to their judgement and cancelled at that time, then he brought her in later when he said they were open to it. Although I don't think they were open to it then, I think they just joined in after Ed brought her in because they thought that would be to their best advantage for whatever reason. The SLCPD seemed to have a conversion once they spoke with her and decided to make it look like their idea.

...and the Smarts are still mad apparently at Mark K because according to Ed, Mark was trying to go behind the backs of the cops....

Ed never said anything resembling this. He was merely saying he deferred to the judgement of the police, they didn't want Boylan. Ed wanted Boylan too. He never said he was mad at Mark.

I've been mindboggled that 99% of everything I've read recapping Ed & his sister's interview on H & C was completely off base. I think I must have watched a different interview. And all the posters were from the Conspiracy Club. I certainly can't figure you people out. You need a different set of glasses, maybe that would help.

549 posted on 08/28/2002 10:09:33 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Bella
I am appaled at your posting of somebodys private mail even it you received it in error. You should be ashamed.
550 posted on 08/28/2002 10:11:24 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Neenah
my kids would not casually go back into "normal" lifestyle of school. NOTHING IS NORMAL NOW

I have to agree with this statement. Even though my children are home with me know, I still have trouble even letting them play in the yard without me being there.

My daughter is in school. I asked her principle how tough were the screening procedures for ALL employees. He got onto me about not letting my childrens abduction control my life.

Anybody who has lived through the hell of having your children go missing, knows that kind of comment will just get the hairs on the back of your neck to stand on end!!

I fear I may be going to extremes, but I am afraid all the time about them being missing again.

I saw a lady holding a sleeping baby today. The child looked like my son. I had to walk up to her and make sure it wasn't him. My son was at day care and I was at work. Thank God I didnt just walk up and snag the child. Me and the children are in counseling now, but I cant seem to get past the fear.

551 posted on 08/28/2002 10:12:21 PM PDT by trussell
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To: sandude
Tough sh-t about what you think...go twist this!
552 posted on 08/28/2002 10:14:12 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Sherlock
actually, he , Ed, never mentioned Mark K's name at all...he did say that there was feeling that someone was trying to go behind the cops , and Ed did not want to do tht...Ed did verify that he , ED, had talked to Jeanie a couple of times...

I know what I heard ...perhaps you were listening to lk who also had ,thru the magic of tv, Ed Smart on the same time he was on Hannity

553 posted on 08/28/2002 10:15:25 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Sherlock
and by the way, go blow it out your ear...
554 posted on 08/28/2002 10:16:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: sandude
To Bella: I am appaled at your posting of somebodys private mail even it you received it in error. You should be ashamed.

I'm not so sure it wasn't meant to go where it did and SEEM like an "error." Nasty freepmails have been sent to a lot of people from jengaio. Her baiting is getting very heavy-duty.

555 posted on 08/28/2002 10:20:52 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
I'm not so sure it wasn't meant to go where it did and SEEM like an "error." Nasty freepmails have been sent to a lot of people from jengaio. Her baiting is getting very heavy-duty.

I've heard that same thing this past week...her and JG are close from how they "refer" to each other on thread..might have common interests.

556 posted on 08/28/2002 10:24:28 PM PDT by Bella
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To: cherry
...he did say that there was feeling that someone was trying to go behind the cops

What Ed was saying is the police were telling him they didn't want Boylan, and Mark was telling Ed is was his decision, it was his daughter, and Ed decided to go with the request of the police. Remember how all the Conspiracy Crowd said at the time Uncle Smart made the decision. I told you all at the time it was the police's decision and Ed was deferring to it. Also Ed covered for the police by not coming out and saying it was them that didn't want her. Ed has been most noble through this entire saga and deserves much better than the attacks he has taken from the unlearned (not referring to you Cherry) on this thread.

557 posted on 08/28/2002 10:29:16 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: varina davis; IamHD; spore-gasm; L84AD8; cherry
From the mormon board re Ricci status, and who's Danites?--

Subject: OK, Ricci in critical condition? Sounds like Danites.,/b>
Date: Aug 28 09:08 Author:Jeff Cohen Mail Address:

http://www.sltrib.com/08282002/utah/766005.htm

Theory:

If the abductor was LDS
Ricci was innocent of the abduction
Bump Ricci off
The REAL villain goes unsuspected
Truth remains a "sacred secret"
No body found
Case marked "unsolved"

The news media should be all over this. Utah is full of secrets and this case seems to be, too.

Jeff Cohen

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Subject: Or perhaps....
Date: Aug 28 11:01 Author:Ann Mail Address:
....he will be done away with because someone believes he did it & needs to be blood-atoned.

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Subject: Re: Or perhaps....
Date: Aug 28 12:21 Author:Switz1 Mail Address:

May be so but I don't think there are too many who believe he did it.

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Subject: I smell a rat.. Ricci goes to the hospital in grave condition the day of a court appearance
Date: Aug 28 12:39 Author:SusieQ#1 Mail Address:

Someone got to him. Gave him something to eat or drink or injected him. He could have had his wife do it if she had contact with him. Whatever it is, it has not been found yet, if it ever will. This is Utah!

He might think it is better to be dead than deal with Utah justice Mormon style especially in a Utah prison. Or he is a modern-day Danite victim!

Why was Ed Smart in a jury room with Ricci's wife where he begged her to ask her husband for help in finding his daughter. Why are they in the same room? That is just plain odd. Why is he allowed to talk to her?

And why is Ed Smart so focused on Ricci? Makes me wonder if he knows more than he is letting on about Ricci and his buddies.

I doubt it would take much to get someone to do away with Ricci in Utah.

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Subject: Blood atonement requires shedding of blood.
Date: Aug 28 12:44 Author:Been There Mail Address:

Not poison. That's why Gilmore chose the firing squad.

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Subject: I thought the same thing "I smell a rat... Fox news update said
Date: Aug 28 12:56 Author:Brenda Mail Address:
he had either a stroke or anuryism.and was on a vent! That alone doesnt sound good.

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Subject: From all accounts,....
Date: Aug 28 13:06 Author:Colonel Thomas Kane Mail Address:
the Smart family has been the of disingenuousness, and ie only ntellectual dishonesty.

Ricci looks like, at best, a pawn in a much larger game.

The only way to explain his situation is (a) he knows something, and (b) if he talks, he's toast.

Obviously, the Smarts have no real interest in finding their daughter....

THAT'S the real tragedy.

Best wishes.

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Subject: brain dead?
Date: Aug 28 14:47 Author:J. Mail Address:
xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.com http://www.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/breaking/missing.htm

"They thought he might be brain dead before he went in," Russo said. "Now, it's too early to tell if he will have brain damage if he survives."

------- OK, let's think a bit logically here . . .
Date: Aug 28 19:39 Author:Sandy Mail Address:
Would the Dr's at the hospital know that there was foul play? If it were drugs or poison, would they not find it in his system?

Col Thomas, you are a guard in the prison system. How could anyone have access to Ricci to hurt him? It would probably be at court, unless a guard were bought off.

Maybe Ricci just had a stroke from all the pressure he was under from being the "fall guy." And yes, I do think he is a fall guy or they would have found some evidence by now.

558 posted on 08/28/2002 10:32:01 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Bella
Subject: brain dead?

Where did you ever find such a pathetic crowd of human beings. You're a very sick woman, Bella.

559 posted on 08/28/2002 10:36:55 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Sherlock
I don't belong to that board...it's one of the many mormon boards that I read...and if you read the first sentence, you would have read that to know..isn't it satin sheet time for you? Am far from sick, maybe you ought to learn to read what's written and by who instead of making statements and embarrassing yourself more sweetie!
560 posted on 08/28/2002 10:40:58 PM PDT by Bella
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