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Mudd Letters Opened To Public: Van Dam Jurors Continue to Mull and Ponder Westerfield's Fate! 8-15
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Union Trib

Posted on 08/14/2002 9:29:21 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: the Deejay
the vdams flushed ~~~ their stash of pot???

... only after the meth and coke went down the sewer.

741 posted on 08/15/2002 6:41:27 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: UCANSEE2
UCANSEE2,

You are a hooth...oops....I mean hoot!!
742 posted on 08/15/2002 6:41:46 PM PDT by domestice
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To: UCANSEE2
I'm positive SD LE had no idea about DNA extraction
on a tooth! I thought the forensics dentist would
mention it, he didn't. I thought the ME would mention
it, he didn't. I thought *someone anyone* in forensics
would mention it (including Doosuk or Clarke), they
didn't.
743 posted on 08/15/2002 6:41:48 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay
Did the vdams actually indentify the body, or did they just take the word of the DNA analysis?

I don't have that info. I know they cremated her ASAP.

744 posted on 08/15/2002 6:44:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
But didn't they say, they couldn't get any of her DNA
from her toothbrush or hairbrush? Like, none of her
fingerprints were found in her own room?

Listening to LE forensics, one could guess Danielle
was just a figment of everyone's imagination.
745 posted on 08/15/2002 6:45:05 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: demsux
Denise said the dope was barbara's....fwiw

Hey, what are friends for, huh?

Maybe Denise and Brenda are both jealous of Demon's "stoney baby"...

746 posted on 08/15/2002 6:45:25 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: UCANSEE2
From Dr. Blackbourne (ME) at the Preliminary Hearing (cross-exam by Feldman):

25 Q. Do you recall, can you tell me from what part of

26 the body did Mr. Faulkner remove insects, if you recall?

27 A. Well, they were more or less all over, but more

28 in the mouth area than anywhere else.

1 Q. And based on your experience in doing autopsies,

2 and especially autopsies involving individuals who have

3 been left out for some period of time, is the mouth

4 generally a good cavity to preserve or obtain evidence

5 from?

6 A. It's a favorite for the maggots and small insects

7 because it's moist and hidden in there. They can go in

8 there and --



*** I didn't cut off his response, he did. ***
747 posted on 08/15/2002 6:45:59 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: crypt2k
I thought a father/daughter dance was imminent.

bzzt....bzzzzzt.......OK, better now, Had some wires crossed.

THe BOYZ were supposed to go snowboarding at Big Bear, and there was a father/daughter dance coming up that DW mentioned to police, because Brenda told him about it, then lied to police and said she never told DW.

748 posted on 08/15/2002 6:48:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Not only is DW Stealth Ninja, but he's clairvoyant
as well. Without BVD telling him about the father-
daughter dance, DW just 'knew.' Remarkable!
749 posted on 08/15/2002 6:51:12 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: RnMomof7
Long term snorting damages and destroys nasal tissue..

When I was teenager, I knew a 20-someting asian guy who had been doing so much cocaine that it had eaten a hole all the way through his septum. You could see daylight peeking in from the other nostril.

750 posted on 08/15/2002 6:51:17 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: the Deejay
I'm positive SD LE had no idea about DNA extraction on a tooth! I thought the forensics dentist would mention it, he didn't. I thought the ME would mention it, he didn't. I thought *someone anyone* in forensics would mention it (including Doosuk or Clarke), they didn't.

Well, does that tell us anything? It wouldn't be my first thought, if I wanted to plant DNA on something. But then I am not an EXPERIENCED DETECTIVE, who studies these type of things, testifies in trials to these kind of things, and who has been caught planting evidence before. (Might have figured out a better technique, to avoid detection)

751 posted on 08/15/2002 6:52:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Yeti
"You could see daylight peeking in from the other nostril."

EEEWWWWW!!!!!

752 posted on 08/15/2002 6:52:57 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: UCANSEE2
Forgot to add, Feldman didn't mention it either.
753 posted on 08/15/2002 6:54:25 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: NatureGirl
I remember your comments at refugee! They hit me like a ton of bricks..I was like "whoooahh" You are poodle at refugee, right?
If so, what you had said how after the trial DW "kills himself" (wink..wink)... I just thought that maybe that was also the reason he wanted the speedy trial....he fears for his life.

I wonder how long he would have sat until this went to trial, if he wouldn't have chosen the speedy trial???
754 posted on 08/15/2002 6:57:55 PM PDT by domestice
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To: RnMomof7
I hold to my belief that Danielle's death was child abuse by daddy...he slapped her or pushed her and there was an accidental death . they needed a cover. The "kidnapping " was cover ...DW is victim 2

"Daddy, why is Barbara in bed with you?Where is mom!?!?"

"Dammit, Danielle! Why don't you knock?!?!"

"I don't know, the door was open..."

"You go back to bed..RIGHT NOW!"

SLAM

There go the teeth, falls down the stairs, not bad head injuries, but she is unconcious, and drowns in her noseblood.

Brenda comes in from the garage an hour or so later, and the rest is unwritten history.

I never posted that theory, because the master bedroom location didn't seem to jibe with it.

755 posted on 08/15/2002 6:58:32 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: UCANSEE2
I am so tired and going to bed very soon...

The child was cremated?

Was there any open casket wake at all for others to accept this death?
756 posted on 08/15/2002 7:01:22 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: Yeti
That's reasonable except for one thing, Barb was at Dad's.
757 posted on 08/15/2002 7:01:24 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: domestice
LE best make sure nothing happens to DW. Feldman will have
the entire LE on trial for years.

No, not even SD LE wants anything to happen to DW.
758 posted on 08/15/2002 7:07:00 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: small_l_libertarian
JJ seems like the smartest, most rational poster on any of these threads. He is as good a poster as any I have ever come across on free republic.
759 posted on 08/15/2002 7:08:01 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: UCANSEE2
What you had crossed was the father/daughter dance and the fact that Big Bear was hosting a father/daughter snowboard thing the weekend damon and libby were going to take the boys snowboarding....right?
760 posted on 08/15/2002 7:09:14 PM PDT by Rheo
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