Elizabeth Smart case, August 12, 2002

[IamHD]

New thread for today.

[IamHD]

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[lakey]

o.k.

[IamHD]

Short and sweet. :) I'm not feeling well today...I accidentally ran into a yellow jacket nest and they got me good. I didn't realize that I could run so fast. (must have been my new tennis shoes.) :0)

[TheDon]

SAUDI PRINCE MIAMI TEENAGE DRUG AND KIDNAP PARTY

A US nationally syndicated television talk show recently had a guest who was a teenage 'soap opera' actress. The Talk show host asked her the most scary event in her life since becoming a child 'soap opera' star. She told of receiving flowers from an unknown source for many days. After a while she said; "some nice speaking Arab guys called and invited me to a big party at a Miami penthouse. It was like a palace inside. There were actresses and models everywhere. Outside on a balcony and inside rooms were Arab men drugged out of their minds all over the place. They didn't notice me. A Spanish-speaking cook took a few of us aside after we asked him what was going on. He told us that the place was owned by a Saudi prince. Then he told of how the prince's people slipped drugs into girls drinks and then took them to a helicopter on the roof. He said he never saw any of them again."N123 When no one was looking the cook used his service key to let the girls take the private (locked) elevator downstairs, since the princes men were guarding the front door. They ran from the building. Later they called the police and told them all that had happened. When the girls, their parents and the people the girls worked for tried to follow up, they were told that no such matter had ever been reported. The actress, her family and others plan to continue the fight but it may be already to late for the girls are most probably sex slaves in Saudi Arabia. If they go to Washington with the story they will be ignored. If the Saudi prince had been caught he would most probably have joined other Saudi princes who have received diplomatic or retroactive diplomatic immunity from the State Department after committing crimes within the US. If the parents of the kidnapped children have their Senator or Congressman write to the State Department they will be told "the State Department can neither confirm nor deny that the children are in Saudi Arabia. The parents may be best able to pursue such matters through appropriate legal channels in Saudi Arabia. If you would like a list of Saudi Arabian attorneys who might be able to initiate appropriate judicial action, the State Department will provide one". If the parents of the kidnapped children go to the Justice Department they will be channeled to the missing children office where several men receive "hardship pay" of $100,000 or more salary to condition the parents to lower their expectations of ever finding their children and that all kidnapping is local. Through his Washington retainers, Ambassador Prince Bandar has been able to stifle any investigations of Saudi princes committing crimes in the US, especially molesting and kidnapping of US children.

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[lakey]

Go to hospital emergency, HD. You could be having an allergic reaction.

[Bella]

Does anyone have a copy of the article that ran in the Salt Lake papers regarding the Smart's trip to NY about a month before the alleged abduction? I think it had some interview comments from a friend of Ed's who he hadn't seen in over 10yrs, and some interview comments from 2 of Liz's cousin, one was a 20yr old, who roomed with Liz while there and said that Liz wasn't that shy..Does anyone remember why or what this trip was about? The reason I ask is due to many comments I've read on other boards regarding this trip. Does anyone know anything about this NY trip?

[trussell]

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[L84AD8]

Bella,

I looked for the article you mention and can't find it. Will try more later. From what I've learned, I wonder if Ed had made it a working vacation. In other words, if he had met with someone there that was involved with his mortgage business.

[L84AD8]

As lakey suggests, I hope you go to an emergency room. At least take some Benedryl.

[L84AD8]

Smart Cousins Recall Summers With Elizabeth
BY LINDA FANTIN
THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE

The first thing you should know about Elizabeth Smart is she never wanted all this attention. It's just not her style to stand out.
She's not into boys or makeup. She dresses modestly, especially for a teenager. And at family get-togethers, when the other kids are running wild, Elizabeth is in the periphery, playing big sister.
"If she's not with a sibling, she's with the person that is the hardest to have patience with at the moment," said her eldest cousin, 21-year-old Sierra. "She's good at making sure you're not alone."
What her cousins would not give to return the favor.
A month ago, Elizabeth was kidnapped from her Salt Lake City home, sparking a nationwide search.

In many ways, however, the 14-year-old at the center of the news media frenzy barely resembles the one her cousins desperately miss.
The popular images of Elizabeth are air-brushed and one-dimensional: that of a proper girl in a velvet dress playing the harp, for instance. But relatives also remember the tomboy who used to eat dirt and once set the Smart family record for catching the largest frog.
In the days since Elizabeth's disappearance, her cousins have spent a lot of time recalling those carefree days of summers past -- of tubing on the lake and secret conversations in upside-down canoes. They think about Elizabeth's quiet demeanor and how it disappears during lights out. And occasionally they slip and refer to her in the past tense.
"She was so quiet and so reserved that when some funny thing happened it was that much more funny," Sierra said.

Like last summer, during a family vacation to New York. Elizabeth jumped in the hotel swimming pool and the chlorine turned her suit from purple to pink. Tori, 13, still laughs when she thinks about it. She and Elizabeth roomed together on the trip and grew closer.
"It was fun in New York at night because she could really talk. She could talk a lot when she was comfortable," Tori said.
And Elizabeth is clearly comfortable around her cousins. They used to love to play dress up in Grandma Smart's basement. "The vegetable gowns," costumes from some church bazaar, were always a hit.
"I remember she was the carrot and she had these huge glasses and a wig," Elise, 18, said. "She was just totally making fun of it."

Some of the girls' fondest memories are of summers spent in Montana near West Yellowstone where every other year the extended family gathers at a cabin owned by Tori's grandparents. The big bedrooms have built-in bunk beds. The kids call them "boys dorm" and "girls dorm."
The girls stay up late, talking and painting each other's nails, the clink of the nail polish bottle inevitably waking the adults sleeping downstairs. Once, the girls recalled, the wake-up call was a little more obvious.
There they all were in their rag curls and bobby pins when an intruder burst into the room.
"All the sudden we hear this noise and this bat flies into our room and we all start screaming," Tori said. "We ran into the boys dorm and we like jumped on their beds. 'There's a bat! There's a bat!' "
"We had the hair, we had the nails, we did mud masks, we screamed about bats," Elise recalled. "It really was a girl party."
But make no mistake, Elizabeth is no Miss Priss. She loves horses and never passes up a chance to go riding even if it means waking her cousins before dawn. As her uncle, Tom Smart, said: "She plays the harp like an angel and rides a horse like a cowboy."

Catching frogs by the bucketful and feeding them water skeeters developed into a summertime ritual, as did making mud pies and mud jello. The latter is a Smart family recipe that requires the green gooey muck that collects under the docks. Retrieving it is not without some risk.

Elise recalled the time she and Elizabeth pulled their arms from the water to find them covered in leeches. Elizabeth was the calm one, her cousins said.
Elizabeth's ability to keep her wits in a crisis is one reason the family believes she is still alive -- that and the thought of summers without her is so inconceivable.
"This year is the year we were supposed to do it again," Elizabeth's aunt Angela said of the extended family's trip to Montana. "We talked about it and we decided that we just need to wait to schedule it for when Elizabeth comes home."

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Bella,
Is this the article you mention?

[Bella]

Is this the article you mention?

I'm not sure if this is the same article that's talked about due to the post also mentioning something about a friend of Ed's from NY who said he hadn't seen him in over 10yrs in the same article..

[TXLady]

Please let us know how you are doing. Those bites can be so painful. Taking Benadryl as lakey suggested should help. Also caladryl on the bites themselves helps lessen the poison of the sting.

[TXLady]

Sorry, it was L84AD8 who suggested the benadryl. Lakey suggested the emergency room, anyway, we are concerned about you. Hope you feel better soon.

[IamHD]

Thanks for your concern. :) I'll be fine, just a lot of swelling and itching and painful. 4/5 stings, so I'm using ice, and benadryl, (thanks) internal and external. My neck looks like a football player's. :)

[L84AD8]

IamHD,

I forgot to mention my favorite remedy for stings, Baking Soda. I make a paste in a cup, baking soda and a little water, just enough to make it paste consistency, then apply. Put a towel around your shoulders. It will take away the sting & itch. I think it may also draw poison.

Some people use mud, but I like the baking soda.

Hope you are better!

[L84AD8]

IamHD,

I forgot to mention my favorite remedy for stings, Baking Soda. I make a paste in a cup, baking soda and a little water, just enough to make it paste consistency, then apply. Put a towel around your shoulders. It will take away the sting & itch. I think it may also draw poison.

Some people use mud, but I like the baking soda.

Hope you are better!