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Prosecutor: Westerfield Guilty 'Beyond Possible Doubt'(Many Still Find Van Dam's Culpable)
Court TV ^ | August 7, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 08/06/2002 8:53:49 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: UCANSEE2
So true, UCANSEE2!!
541 posted on 08/07/2002 2:26:47 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: shezza
We know it was hot. Heat doesn't de-celerate, it accelerates how bugs grow. A number of experts were called. The very first expert, the man LE relied upon, the man Dusek has used in other cases, the man the police brought in to autopsy, Faulkner--he was called in as a prosecution witness to generate information. And what did he tell you? He's never been given the opportunity to do the kind of work, the kind of collection he was called to do this time.
542 posted on 08/07/2002 2:26:56 PM PDT by shezza
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To: UCANSEE2
(ref: his allowing witnesses to have sex in the courtroom (not in front of the public or jury)

WHAT! FREEPMAIL REQUESTED!

543 posted on 08/07/2002 2:27:18 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: alexandria

"You get a grip Van Damnit....I know you are nervous...bet we are almost home free!!"


544 posted on 08/07/2002 2:27:25 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: bvw
Feldman is a fly-fisherman -- goin' for the ten pound trout with two pound line.

Actually its called the "leader". The leader for fly fishing can come in a variety of styles (aside from sinking, slow sinking and floating). (I personally use multiple tapered slow sinking) which consists of four or so shorter lengths of increasingly lighter fine line weights tied end to end with one another. The leader is tied to the fly line (again floating or sinking depending on the situation). The reason for this is to make the correct "presentation" of the fly to the trout. In the case of rainbow (my personal favorite) the fly itself would consist be at this time of year and presuming a slower moving creek with deep pools or a spring fed pond, a wooley bugger presented quietly near the shadier cooler areas.

Trout are man's natural enemy and they are exceptionally smart with phenomenal vision. And yes, they must be stalked. My six inch cast iron skillet has offered up many of them to my pallet beside the very stream or pond from which they were caught. My fanny pack that carries a small amount of virgin olive oil mixed with a bit of lime juice and some secret culinary herbs needs replenishing periodically. I've never gone hungry.
545 posted on 08/07/2002 2:28:24 PM PDT by pyx
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To: Henrietta
I believe it was FresnoDa that posted the info (could be someone else though) that was on these threads, probably several weeks ago, that detailed the corruption that Pfingst was involved in and was even published in the SD U-T I believe. IF I find it I will let you know. Probably you should ask Fres if he knows where it is.

What I remember was Pfingst allowed some a witness to have sex in the courtroom (while everyone else was out) as a payoff for them giving certain testimony.

546 posted on 08/07/2002 2:29:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: pyx

"You look so hot in orange Bren.....and so does DUH-KNEES..."


547 posted on 08/07/2002 2:29:35 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: shezza
Thank you, David Faulkner, thank you SDPD. This is their best. He was their best. And what did he have to say? Ahhhh, whoops! I've done the study, but I can't understand the time. Because on Mr. Faukner's timeline, dumping was 16-17-18.

Dr. Blackbourne testified bugs were coming out of her mouth. In terms of what the officers saw, in terms of what bugs were available, the prosecution's specious theory was that ants came along and ate the eggs. He said TOD was 10 days to 6 weeks. Fits within Faulkner's timeline.

Haskell performed a series of studies (Dusek yelled at Haskell, judge had to recess, remember?) he considered maggot mass.

548 posted on 08/07/2002 2:30:38 PM PDT by shezza
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To: pyx
Great. Now I am hungry.....
549 posted on 08/07/2002 2:30:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: alexandria
See #546
550 posted on 08/07/2002 2:31:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: HoneyBoo
I couldn't help noticing that, too. Looks to me like he's been glaring at Feldman all afternoon.
551 posted on 08/07/2002 2:32:02 PM PDT by MagnoliaMS
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To: Politicalmom

Just a itsy bitsy touch of Cremora, O-Kay???


552 posted on 08/07/2002 2:32:30 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: shezza
Prosecution said Haskell considering maggot mass artificially inflated time. By one day. WE learned from Neal Haskell that there is a particular way in which life processes evolve and devolve. Start at death, and work backwards. Body doesn't re-compose after beginning to decompose. That's Rodriguez's theory. The body decays, putrifies.
553 posted on 08/07/2002 2:32:49 PM PDT by shezza
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To: pyx
UUMMM! Sounds good. Off topic, what kind of reel do you use?
554 posted on 08/07/2002 2:33:00 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: FresnoDA
Coffee spew #2 for today!!!
555 posted on 08/07/2002 2:33:44 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: shezza
Beetles don't come in until much later. Their experts say flies arrive from minutes to a few hours after death. Bugs go to eyes, ears, mouth. Also go to anus and genitalia.

Flies would come only once.

556 posted on 08/07/2002 2:35:07 PM PDT by shezza
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To: Henrietta
On a side note, I got back from meeting with the undersheriff of Skamania County just before lunch. The Skamania County sheriff's office has of this morning opened a criminal inverstigation related to my federal civil RICO/Civil Rights case and once they confirm enough information to justify it, will be referring the criminal investigation to the FBI, U.S. Attorney for Western Washington and the Chief of the DoJ Driminal RICO Division in Washington, DC.

I am also in the process of getting my civil RICO/Civil Rights case reinstated in the USDC for Western Washington where the US District Court Judge illegally dismissed it for lack of jurisdiction.

By the time this is over, several Washington judges and politicians will be in prison, and possibly include Gov. Locke and AG Gregoire. It has been a long battle, but it looks like the end is in sight.
557 posted on 08/07/2002 2:35:47 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: crystalk
Do you think Westerfield admitting he and BvD had a fling possibly be what the "almost as explosive as a confession" that Feldman refered to? Nawwwww,surely not.
558 posted on 08/07/2002 2:35:50 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: pyx
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Dusek really has his rebutal cut out for himself today. He keeps writing & writing & writing.
559 posted on 08/07/2002 2:36:14 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Neenah
For your consumption:

Posted on Thu, Feb. 21, 2002

Two San Diego men allegedly linked to child pornography ring

SAN DIEGO (AP) - Two men arrested on child molestation and child pornography charges were part of an international ring uncovered by a Swedish watchdog group, authorities said.

Paul Whitmore of San Diego pleaded innocent Wednesday to 23 counts of child molestation and child pornography charges involving two girls ages 10 and 13. He is being held on $2 million bail.

Brooke Rowland, 40, of Poway is scheduled to be arraigned Thursday on similar charges involving five children. He is being held on $1 million bail.

San Diego District Attorney Paul Pfingst said Whitmore, a child and family counselor, allowed Rowland to abuse one of the girls he allegedly molested.

``They're exchanging kids,'' Pfingst said.

Prosecutors said the two men were part of a child pornography ring in which they exchanged pictures and video of themselves molesting girls to other Internet users.

Authorities began their investigation in November after the Swedish affiliate of the child advocacy group, Save The Children, told them about the child pornography they found on the Internet, court documents showed.

Police in Denmark, Germany and the Fresno suburb of Clovis have arrested people who were allegedly part of the ring. Their names were not immediately known.

San Diego police arrested Whitmore on Jan. 27 and found cameras, computers, photos and videotapes inside his home. Also discovered were leather restraints, rope and handcuffs, according to court records.

Whitmore lost his job as a child counselor and computer expert at the Stein Education Center after he was arrested. Authorities said none of the abused children were students at the school.

560 posted on 08/07/2002 2:36:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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