UFOs, ancient aircraft, NASA coverup, mumbo-jumbo etc etc (Hmmmmm + tinfoil alert)

[spetznaz]

The reason i am posting this is i just bumped onto it and i found it quite interesting. Especially since i had been watching this documentary on the History Channel and some of the participants in NASA's space program were swearing to have seen objects that were 'unknowable.'

I am not saying Aliens exist ...but definitely UFOs exist (for example in the 1980s people who saw the B-2 spirit or the F-117 would correctly assert those crafts as genuine UFOs since they were in all respects UFOs to all apart from those who were privy to their existence).

However the above is quite interesting. There is no way to explain the hieroglyphics in that Egyptian temple, and as for the accounts in the Mahabarat and the Ramayana of what seems to be the use of homing missiles and nuclear weapons, as well as the references to various flying devices are rather strange!

And yes, some of this could be meteorites, or even ball lightning.

However in the History Channel program they showed several paintings done in the middle ages where in the background a UFO is clearly depicted. They even showed this account that in one of Alexander the Great's conquests a 'flying object' came from the skies, hovered over this city he was laying siege to, and then fired a projectile of some sort that totally obliterated one side of the wall allowing him to swarm in with his army and conquer the city.'

And then there is the thing that the former USSR and currently Russia have governmental organizations fielded only for the study and documentation of UFO events in that part of the world (they claim they had 'interesting' evidence some years ago).

And then there is this 'evidence' (?) that shows footage taken from a NASA shuttle where some type of 'beam weapon' is being fired out of Australia at several UFOs. The base in Australia turned out to be occupied by the USA when an investigation was carried out, and they were working on some type of particle weapon that used an ionized beam to direct immense voltage at a target. What could all this be (by the way some of that footage was intercepted by ground observers, and since then NASA has been scrambling all its signals).

Anyways i was just wondering what you people think about this.

As to what i think? Hmmm, let me see. Believing in Aliens is said to be the established tardemark for kooks and crankpots, so the most sagacious choice is to do this: I believe it was mass accumulations of swamp gas coupled with electrostatic charges from the aurora borealis. And as for the Egyptian hieroglyphics that is simply the work of some Egyptian artist then who was suffering from terrible athritis causing him to form crooked figures. And moving on to the NASA footage .....let me see. Yep, that is simply meteorites entering the atmosphere, and hitting high density air pockets causing them to change velocity and direction at rapidly changing cadence rates! And the 'beam weapon' is actually the reflection off the flight feathers of migrating birds suddenly diving in unison causing a swash of reflected light to arc up!

Yes. That is my story and i am sticking by it.

Now let me run off and get myself an upgraded tin-foil hat with lace trim and matching ear plugs to prevent my brains getting sucked off through my ears!

[spetznaz]

The website to the NASA footage is as follows (copy and paste):

http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/videoclips/

[Frank_Discussion]

And how is Richard Hoagland these days?

[spetznaz]

UFO + strange stuff PING!

Tin foil hat required to view.

[spetznaz]

huh? And who is Rich Hoagland?

[First_Salute]

A close examination of the ceiling in this room where I sit, reveals in the plaster --- the plaster's work --- the story of an ancient intergalactic war, after which refugees fled, first to Mars, then to the Moon, and then finally to Earth.

[BullDog108]

One of Art Bell's frequent guests.

[spetznaz]

Darn it .....your explanation is better than mine (that the Egyptian hieroglyphist had severe athritis)! I should have thought of that one up. I guess now we have a viable hypothesis on how those hieroglyphics came up in Egypt.

Now, let us work on the rest of the stuff. I am afraid not everyone will believe my story on how swamp gas mixed witht he reflections off the feathers of migratory birds explains the NASA footage! They may also say that meteorites do not change velocity and speed at such rates of cadence!

Help me out here.

[pt17]

Paging Erich von Däniken. Will Erich von Däniken please answer the tinfoil courtesy phone :-)

[eastforker]

Well I gotta tell ya I do believe that UFO's exist having seen them firsthand and there is alot of ancient literature and paintings that depict them.Who is to say that the human race isn't some big science project since we arrived so late on the scene.No,Iam not a christian yet I am not an athiest.I am also not sure if agnostic fits either.One things for sure,someone sure has alot of splainin to do.

[knighthawk]

The Abydos temple helicopter

The first image is 'cleaned up' and the actual thing looks like this:

":..., I am afraid that you have been subjected to the famous "Abydos helicopter" mania, here. There is a simple explanation to what you are seeing, at least, as we see it in Egyptology. There is no mystery here; it's just a _palimpsest_ (though without the use of that term, and which is defined as "... A manuscript, typically of papyrus or parchment, that has been written on more than once, with the earlier writing incompletely erased and often legible" AHED). It was decided in antiquity to replace the five-fold royal titulary of Seti I with that of his son and successor, Ramesses II. In the photos, we clearly see "Who repulses the Nine Bows," which figures in some of the Two-Ladies names of Seti I, replaced by "Who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries," a Two-Ladies name of Ramesses II. With some of the plaster that once covered Seti I's titulary now fallen away, certain of the superimposed signs do indeed look like a submarine, etc., but it's just a coincidence.
What is happening in the photographs is quite clear; just consult Juergen von Beckerath, Handbuch der aegyptischen Koenigsnamen, Muenchner aegyptologische Studien 20, pages 235 and 237.
This issue comes up from time to time on such academic e-mail lists as the Ancient Near East (ANE) List and so on, so we're all pretty familiar with it. Regards. Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" Member, American Research Center in Egypt International Association of Egyptologists University of Alabama at Birmingham Special Studies

[spetznaz]

Ja!

[Jaxter]

[billbears]

tin foil bump for later

[4Freedom]

First, we find out if Martha Stewart has done any decorating for any NASA officials.

Then we can just ask Martha.

Her clients tell her everything.

[knighthawk]

I forgot this one:

Read the article at the link to see what it means.

[Frank_Discussion]

And, if you research back far enough, the original source for the images, I believe.

[spetznaz]

Funniest thing i have seen all week! Good one. All around protection ...cannot go wrong with that approach.

[Cleburne]

Gee, you would think those ancient aliens would at least have given us some really weird cool technology instead of stuff that we would come up with on our own a few thousand years later. I mean, who needs atom bombs and gliders? I want some anti-gravity shoes and matter transporters, and a ray gun!

[weikel]

Im going to Cape Cod soon if this thread is still here Ill be very surprised.