Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 1,041-1,044 next last
To: FresnoDA
There is more chance that Danielle was abducted by UFO aliens, who after all can go through walls, roofs, etc...than that DW, who at 50 and formerly a bit paunchy, could have floated like a butterfly, stung like a bee, and buzzed right upstairs where Damon was having sex with someone, or wasn't, past the VD love nest, and grabbed Danielle without anyone hearing him or her or being the wiser. And no evidence-- not a scrap, not a shred.

In fact, there is more chance that Danielle was taken by space aliens, than that anyone at all entered the VD home without permission and took her.

Why don't they at least make it POSSIBLE by saying she walked out and DW took her from the roadside or the park.

21 posted on 07/31/2002 10:00:04 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Positive
Find a Jew who disagrees with me.
22 posted on 07/31/2002 10:02:50 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: crystalk
I heard the saying 'your name is mud' was derived from Dr. Samuel Mudd. He was the physician who treated John Wilkes Booth after the assassination of Lincoln.

At least that is the story told at Fort Jefferson where he was imprisoned.

23 posted on 07/31/2002 10:04:45 PM PDT by Marak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Greg Weston
Those only show that the girl was in the motor home at some time. She may have gotten in it when it was at the park, or when it was at the defendent's house. Kids like to explore, and it's obvious that they were not always well looked after. What kind of mother comes home late at night and doesn't check on her kids?
24 posted on 07/31/2002 10:06:27 PM PDT by per loin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Marak
mud = botz = bet vav tsadi = 2+6+90 = 98

Muhammad= mem vav khet mem dalet = 40+6+8+40+4 = 98

25 posted on 07/31/2002 10:08:36 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Marak
#23
Likewise the story told at the Ford's Theater Museum in Washington, DC.
26 posted on 07/31/2002 10:12:16 PM PDT by RightField
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: All
A question to everyone...

I beleive as I think a fair majority on FR do, that DW did not kill DVD.

So, my question is...

What would you do about the child porn charges? (I understand that we have not been privy to the questionable images, but going on assumption that they really are child porn)

1.) Return a not guilty verdict maybe because they were gotten on bogus assumtions made by LE and DA.

2.)Return a guilty verdict because they were found in his possesion.

I understand the arguements that they might not be his or were planted but if you would be so kind and just assume they are his and are child porn.

27 posted on 07/31/2002 10:14:20 PM PDT by PFKEY
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: crystalk
mud = 13 + 21 + 4 = 38

muhammad = 13 + 21 + 1 + 13 + 13 + 1 + 4 = 66

Now can you find a literary or historical reference to the phrase 'your name is mud' prior to 1860?

28 posted on 07/31/2002 10:19:30 PM PDT by Marak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
I beleive as I think a fair majority on FR do, that DW did not kill DVD.

I would question this assertion.

29 posted on 07/31/2002 10:22:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
You ask us to assume too much that is up for grabs.

But, still, if forced, I will say that unless someone could show me where Mr Westerfield intentionally paid somebody something to obtain these images, not just accidentally strayed into them...

if they could show me that he actually had viewed these images, not just by accident they were included in a huge pack of porn for which he paid $3.50...

Show me that he knew he had it, knew the people in it were underage, and knew it was illegal to have it.

Show me that porn was a part of his life, that he made profits from porn which I assume DAMON DID DO...(!)

Also one would need to assume that the law which would make just a passive viewer of porn, not a creator or seller of it, is constitutional.

You would also have to prove that the search warrants allowed such a fishing expedition, and that they were not obtained by fraud and lies which in fact they were.

If Westerfield is convicted, the Bill of Rights is on the trash heap. Wonder if Zimbabwe might want to buy a good used Constitution, doesn't look like we'll be needing it here any more.

30 posted on 07/31/2002 10:22:56 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Marak
You don't understand. The Hebrew letters really are the numerals and they do have those values. This is not just a parlor trick. It is called gematria.

Your calculation uses just the ranks in the alphabet, like M is the 13th letter, etc. It has no tradition of equalizing things based upon their numerical letter equivalency, which in Hebrew goes back 3000 yrs.

Show me why the same saying is common in German, in fact German immigrants brought it to America, where it was translated into English. There the word for mud = schlamm, but "Sein Namen ist Schlamm" is still said...Was there a Dr. Schlamm that treated Goethe or someone?

31 posted on 07/31/2002 10:29:04 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: FresnoDA
Madison Lee Goff, one of the most experienced scientists in the small field of forensic entomology

Sure makes me wonder how much of this "science" is actually "wannabe Science". I think the jurors will realize these "experts" although well meaning can not possibly be correct. The other eviedence looks like it will convict DW. Hopefully this will set back these bug doctors and send them back to studying how bodies are affected by low humidity and such. Most studies on bugs were done in the east where the climate is much different.

32 posted on 07/31/2002 10:33:01 PM PDT by ImphClinton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Marak
also you left out the 8 for the h in your calculation of English gematria, so Muhammad =74 not 66.
33 posted on 07/31/2002 10:33:51 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: crystalk; cyncooper
I would question this assertion.

You ask us to assume too much that is up for grabs.

Maybe I'm just reading too much of my opinion into what I think a majority here feel about DW's guilt or innocence. Or maybe those who feel he is innocent are the loudest or most frequest posters to these threads.

Maybe I should revise the question slightly.

How's this...

If the jury finds DW not guilty of the charges related to the abduction and murder of DVD. Then how do you think the jury should find on the child porn charges?

34 posted on 07/31/2002 10:34:10 PM PDT by PFKEY
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
What would you do about the child porn charges?

If I were on the jury, and I concluded DW didn't do it, I would let him off on the porn charge, if nothing else, out of sheer contempt for the state.

35 posted on 07/31/2002 10:36:09 PM PDT by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
Or maybe those who feel he is innocent are the loudest or most frequest posters to these threads.

I would venture that this is the answer, imo.

As to the child porn, I don't know without seeing the evidence (thank heaven).

It will be interesting if anyone on the jury decides to share some insights with the public after their service is over.

36 posted on 07/31/2002 10:37:44 PM PDT by cyncooper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: crystalk
mud = botz = bet vav tsadi = 2+6+90 = 98

Muhammad= mem vav khet mem dalet = 40+6+8+40+4 = 98


I am curious if you applied that Caballistic formula to the term "pedophile" and to the name of Muhammad's six (6) year old wife, Ayisha, if you'd also come up with a 98.
37 posted on 07/31/2002 10:39:11 PM PDT by pyx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
Then he has been massively overpunished for that misdemanor already by being put on trial for his life, pain and suffering, massive financial loss of legal fees, loss of professional earnings, loss of reputation, and a hundred others.

He should still sue San Diego up the wazoo for conducting an illegal fishing expedition into his affairs just because he happened to live near where a crime happened.

They had no evidence of motive, and they took advantage of his good nature and willingness to help solve this high profile case.

38 posted on 07/31/2002 10:41:21 PM PDT by crystalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: crystalk
Oh I understand where you are coming from. That does not mean I buy into your theory. The origin of the phrase coming from the Lincoln assassination has some credibility. That is not to say that I would dismiss other theories. Any written reference preceding 1865 would suffice.

As for parlor tricks, would you believe that if you took my phone number and added the digits together it would produce the identical sum as the phone number for the Kmart in Simi Valley?

39 posted on 07/31/2002 10:47:56 PM PDT by Marak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: FresnoDA
**I plan to go on Safari in Africa...where I plan to hunt Jackals**

LOL

40 posted on 07/31/2002 10:48:40 PM PDT by homeschool mama
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 1,041-1,044 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson