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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Prosecution's bug expert struggles on stand

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Forensic entomologist Madison Lee Goff, left, testifies for the prosecution at the trial of David Westerfield.

SAN DIEGO — The insect expert prosecutors hoped would destroy David Westerfield's chances for acquittal stumbled badly during his turn on the witness stand Tuesday, capping confusing, overly technical testimony with the admission he made basic math errors in his findings.

Madison Lee Goff, one of the most experienced scientists in the small field of forensic entomology, blushed a deep red as a defense lawyer for the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam repeatedly confronted him with five separate errors in data he used to analyze bugs collected at the 7-year-old's autopsy.

"I made a mistake adding," said Goff, the chair of the forensic science department at Honolulu's Chaminade University and one of only nine certified forensic entomologists in North America.

Entomology has become a battleground as Westerfield's two-month long capital murder trial draws to a close. The strongest evidence for the defense comes from this field in which insect specialists use the age of maggots and flies decomposing a body to help determine a time of death. Danielle, abducted from her bedroom Feb. 1, was missing 26 days and when her body was finally found, the medical examiner was unable to pinpoint when she was killed. Two forensic entomologists hired by the defense said their analyses suggested her body was dumped along a roadside in mid-February, long after Westerfield was under constant police surveillance.

Prosecutors, who have a pile of other evidence against Westerfield, including hair, blood and fingerprint evidence, hired Goff soon after the first defense entomologist testified.

Goff said Tuesday he disagreed with the conclusions of both defense experts, but the time frame he offered, Feb. 9 to Feb. 14, was only slightly earlier than theirs and did not neatly fit the prosecution's theory that Danielle was killed between Feb. 2 and Feb. 4 while Westerfield claims he was on a solo camping trip. Prosecutor Jeff Dusek had to question his own expert in much the same way as he cross-examined the defense experts, hinting that variables in the weather and the disposal of Danielle's body cast doubt on the certainty of any entomological findings.

Goff agreed that very hot, very dry weather conditions in San Diego in February might have mummified Danielle's 58-pound body almost immediately and that flies may not have been attracted to the desiccated body. A forensic anthropologist, called by the prosecution last week to cast doubt on the bug evidence, said the insects may have arrived later and only after coyotes and other animals began scavenging her body and Goff said this scenario seemed possible.

He also said a covering, such as a blanket, might have kept flies at bay initially. No covering was found and Goff later said the longest delay by such a shroud was two and a half days.

Much of his testimony was a detailed view into the mathematical nuts and bolts of his conclusions. Goff did not look at the bugs himself. Instead, he reviewed photos and the reports of the defense experts. He told jurors he came up with four separate time lines based on two different temperatures at two separate locations, a golf course a mile and a half from the crime scene and National Weather Service station farther away.

Goff's testimony bounced between these four sets of findings and even after he said the lower temperature and the weather service station provided the most reliable, appropriate date, it was often unclear which findings he was referring to. He peppered his speech with entomological jargon like "accumulated degree hours" and referred to blowflies by their the Latin names. He talked about temperatures in Celsius degrees, frequently prompting Dusek to ask for a Fahrenheit translation. Much of his work seemed lost on jurors, who stopped taking notes early on in his testimony.

On cross-examination, defense lawyer Steven Feldman grilled him about the way he calculated the day-to-day temperatures which dictate how fast an insect grows. Goff explained the process, but then Feldman handed him a pocket calculator and asked him to review his findings. With the courtroom completely silent, Goff added rows of figures and discovered his errors. Feldman asked him if the mistakes effected the accuracy of his estimates and Goff said they did. Several jurors picked up their notebooks and began writing rapidly.

A few minutes later, under questioning by Dusek, Goff said the slip ups made little difference in the ultimate conclusions. And as he had earlier in his testimony, he emphasized to jurors that his was an extremely narrow study of bugs, not a "stopwatch" for determining time of death.

"We're establishing a minimum period of time the insects have been feeding on the body," said Goff.

"Are you establishing a time of death?" asked prosecutor Jeff Dusek.

"No, that's outside our area of expertise," said Goff.

Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, watched most of the testimony from the back row of the courtroom, occasionally flinching as Goff described the condition of their daughter's remains.

The prosecution rested its rebuttal case after Goff's testimony. There will be no witnesses Wednesday and the defense will put on its sur-rebuttal case Thursday. Closing arguments could happen as early as next Monday.

Also Tuesday, a lab technician testified that orange clothes some law enforcement officers wore when searching Westerfield's house were not the source of fibers found in both the defendant's home and in Danielle's necklace.

The trial is being broadcast live on Court TV.



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KEYWORDS: bugguys; daniellevandam; davidwesterfield
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To: redlipstick
We're all here.

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461 posted on 08/01/2002 12:17:36 PM PDT by countess
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To: hoosiermama
How nice for you!
462 posted on 08/01/2002 12:19:51 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: bolthead
The end justifies the medians.
463 posted on 08/01/2002 12:19:56 PM PDT by shezza
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To: UCANSEE2
Moisture evaporated...because of temp, santa ana winds and possibly the heat radiating off of the roads.

If she was killed friday night or saturday, and if she was kept in a bag or something within a storage compartment for example..it's a barrior. If the mummiologist was correct about his findings wrt:age, size of children ....if the skin DID mummify within 24 hrs...there's no other argument. It accounts for why the 7 orfices that were still intact, eyes, ears, nostrils and mouth, did not have bug activity.

464 posted on 08/01/2002 12:20:28 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: redlipstick
Oh yes, Redlipstick, tell em off, hit and run.

I am STILL waiting for you to post a retraction or Source out, the disinformation you posted about ME yesterday..I'd be running off to Disneyland too if I were you, LOL.

It's a shame you couldn't have apologized for that garbage you posted about my boasting about not watching the Prosecutions witnessess. Which, is about as wrong as it gets.

Just read the names you have called the other side...and take off that halo of yours, you have no class.

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465 posted on 08/01/2002 12:21:01 PM PDT by spectre
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To: hoosiermama
I was told that a lot of folks aren't posting there too..they just wanted to lurk there AS WELL as here.
466 posted on 08/01/2002 12:21:04 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: redlipstick
Yes, it is nice.
467 posted on 08/01/2002 12:22:17 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: bolthead
I think you are correct that he doesn't understand the concept. However I doubt that median would ever be a factor in his calculations. I was surprised when Goff said that he took each day's high and low and computed a "median". This whole thing may stem from the fact that Goff doesn't understand the difference either.

Statistics is used in many fields. To say these guys have Phd's, make math mistakes and cannot talk coherently about the difference between mean and median strains credibility.

So if a juror decides to effectively ignore bug science, it is reasonable. I think this witness accomplished no progress for the defense, and reinforced the confusion about bug science, for the prosecution.

Either a draw, or slight win for Dusek.

468 posted on 08/01/2002 12:24:45 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: redlipstick
Hugzzz!
469 posted on 08/01/2002 12:24:46 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
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470 posted on 08/01/2002 12:25:09 PM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Not enought time to play in other sandboxes. :)
471 posted on 08/01/2002 12:25:46 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: spectre
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472 posted on 08/01/2002 12:25:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
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473 posted on 08/01/2002 12:26:25 PM PDT by calawah98
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To: AmusedBystander
You all need to consult with a coroner before making such statements.

"It is also important to note that though the victim's anus was dilated, this by itself does not indicate or suggest anal penetration. The anus is a sphincter; a muscle which is tight and closed in most living individuals, and always open and dilated in deceased individuals.
When someone dies their anus relaxes and dilates. The presence of a dilated anus taken to indicate sexual assault or rape is a very common misinterpretation made by untrained individuals when examining those who have met with violent death."

Taken from: EQUIVOCAL EXAMINATION AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF CASE EVIDENCE Brent E. Turvey, MS Forensic Scientist & Criminal Profiler Knowledge Solutions

474 posted on 08/01/2002 12:27:00 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: agrandis
I personally know of no cases where this has happened, other than true mummification of bodies (like those found thousands of years later). I suppose it isn't saying much to say that I don't know of any such cases, because I am NOT a forensic entomologist

Which is why the prosecution called Rodriguez, an anthropologist who does specialize in the decomposition and/or mummification of bodies.

The prosecution has been widely mocked by some here for calling such a witness as a foundation to their entomologist.

Thanks for your insights here today. What do you make of the the flies/head condition of the victim?

475 posted on 08/01/2002 12:27:02 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: UCANSEE2
"I'll agree it's cool when I see it has worked."

It worked the first time but now it wants to post ALL my responses to everyone each time I try it. My computer expert (granddaughter) will be here tomorrow and she can help me out. Thanks....

476 posted on 08/01/2002 12:28:27 PM PDT by I. Ben Hurt
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"I was told that a lot of folks aren't posting there too..they just wanted to lurk there AS WELL as here."

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477 posted on 08/01/2002 12:30:31 PM PDT by kayti
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To: alexandria
All discussion of this was about 1. to show that bugs didn't eat from the inside out from an early date and 2. to explain why the moisture content was a factor in why the bugs didn't attack the head... and 3. Prosecution forced the defense witness to admit that this wasn't a normal case and that he'd never seens a body like danielle's before..especially before the body had been removed from the crime scene. and 4. the aneorbic and aerobic bacteria, while not mentioned today did play a factor in her decay..you'll have to read past discussion with regard to the bacteria.
478 posted on 08/01/2002 12:33:05 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: kayti
NOPE..
479 posted on 08/01/2002 12:33:32 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: hoosiermama; Politicalmom; spectre; Jaded; FresnoDA
I never got to the new offsite site, but I just noticed that the old chat is there again now with only a couple of folks there.

Anyone else?

480 posted on 08/01/2002 12:33:33 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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