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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Prosecution's bug expert struggles on stand

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Forensic entomologist Madison Lee Goff, left, testifies for the prosecution at the trial of David Westerfield.

SAN DIEGO — The insect expert prosecutors hoped would destroy David Westerfield's chances for acquittal stumbled badly during his turn on the witness stand Tuesday, capping confusing, overly technical testimony with the admission he made basic math errors in his findings.

Madison Lee Goff, one of the most experienced scientists in the small field of forensic entomology, blushed a deep red as a defense lawyer for the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam repeatedly confronted him with five separate errors in data he used to analyze bugs collected at the 7-year-old's autopsy.

"I made a mistake adding," said Goff, the chair of the forensic science department at Honolulu's Chaminade University and one of only nine certified forensic entomologists in North America.

Entomology has become a battleground as Westerfield's two-month long capital murder trial draws to a close. The strongest evidence for the defense comes from this field in which insect specialists use the age of maggots and flies decomposing a body to help determine a time of death. Danielle, abducted from her bedroom Feb. 1, was missing 26 days and when her body was finally found, the medical examiner was unable to pinpoint when she was killed. Two forensic entomologists hired by the defense said their analyses suggested her body was dumped along a roadside in mid-February, long after Westerfield was under constant police surveillance.

Prosecutors, who have a pile of other evidence against Westerfield, including hair, blood and fingerprint evidence, hired Goff soon after the first defense entomologist testified.

Goff said Tuesday he disagreed with the conclusions of both defense experts, but the time frame he offered, Feb. 9 to Feb. 14, was only slightly earlier than theirs and did not neatly fit the prosecution's theory that Danielle was killed between Feb. 2 and Feb. 4 while Westerfield claims he was on a solo camping trip. Prosecutor Jeff Dusek had to question his own expert in much the same way as he cross-examined the defense experts, hinting that variables in the weather and the disposal of Danielle's body cast doubt on the certainty of any entomological findings.

Goff agreed that very hot, very dry weather conditions in San Diego in February might have mummified Danielle's 58-pound body almost immediately and that flies may not have been attracted to the desiccated body. A forensic anthropologist, called by the prosecution last week to cast doubt on the bug evidence, said the insects may have arrived later and only after coyotes and other animals began scavenging her body and Goff said this scenario seemed possible.

He also said a covering, such as a blanket, might have kept flies at bay initially. No covering was found and Goff later said the longest delay by such a shroud was two and a half days.

Much of his testimony was a detailed view into the mathematical nuts and bolts of his conclusions. Goff did not look at the bugs himself. Instead, he reviewed photos and the reports of the defense experts. He told jurors he came up with four separate time lines based on two different temperatures at two separate locations, a golf course a mile and a half from the crime scene and National Weather Service station farther away.

Goff's testimony bounced between these four sets of findings and even after he said the lower temperature and the weather service station provided the most reliable, appropriate date, it was often unclear which findings he was referring to. He peppered his speech with entomological jargon like "accumulated degree hours" and referred to blowflies by their the Latin names. He talked about temperatures in Celsius degrees, frequently prompting Dusek to ask for a Fahrenheit translation. Much of his work seemed lost on jurors, who stopped taking notes early on in his testimony.

On cross-examination, defense lawyer Steven Feldman grilled him about the way he calculated the day-to-day temperatures which dictate how fast an insect grows. Goff explained the process, but then Feldman handed him a pocket calculator and asked him to review his findings. With the courtroom completely silent, Goff added rows of figures and discovered his errors. Feldman asked him if the mistakes effected the accuracy of his estimates and Goff said they did. Several jurors picked up their notebooks and began writing rapidly.

A few minutes later, under questioning by Dusek, Goff said the slip ups made little difference in the ultimate conclusions. And as he had earlier in his testimony, he emphasized to jurors that his was an extremely narrow study of bugs, not a "stopwatch" for determining time of death.

"We're establishing a minimum period of time the insects have been feeding on the body," said Goff.

"Are you establishing a time of death?" asked prosecutor Jeff Dusek.

"No, that's outside our area of expertise," said Goff.

Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, watched most of the testimony from the back row of the courtroom, occasionally flinching as Goff described the condition of their daughter's remains.

The prosecution rested its rebuttal case after Goff's testimony. There will be no witnesses Wednesday and the defense will put on its sur-rebuttal case Thursday. Closing arguments could happen as early as next Monday.

Also Tuesday, a lab technician testified that orange clothes some law enforcement officers wore when searching Westerfield's house were not the source of fibers found in both the defendant's home and in Danielle's necklace.

The trial is being broadcast live on Court TV.



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KEYWORDS: bugguys; daniellevandam; davidwesterfield
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
It's no wonder is it?
These threads, with FDAs HaHa parodies, are the laughingstock of FR.
The SaveDave groupies - who write billets-a-deux to poor Davie in their off time - drive off everyone (with 4 exceptions!) who dares come on these threads who doesn't share their opinion.
Have you noticed how many of the people on UCANSEE2's ping list never come onto these threads?
Have you noticed that those who just registered last week - and have never posted to anything but DW threads - are welcome with open arms - but those of us who dare disagree with the prevailing winds are accused of being DU trolls, even if we've been freepers for years?

It's no wonder we've been moved to "chat" - the wonder is that JR hasn't shut us down entirely.

I'm off to Disneyworld - where Mickey Mouse knows he's Mickey Mouse.

Be back monday -

441 posted on 08/01/2002 12:06:24 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: RnMomof7
Do you belive Dusak is going into anus as access because it is tighter? That is incorrect, after death the mucules of the anus relax and therefore would be an opening for flies. That is why witness said something about the spheinter(sp?) mucule but Dusak stopped him.

Your welcome.
To catch you up, the above statement was only one of many Dusak has trieid to twist to his liking. He is asking the questions in a way that the witness has no choice but to answer one way to (even though by doing so implies/infers something totally incorrect) which is why the witness is balking and may seem to be dodging the question.
The witness should probably try answering as Dusak is insisting (hard as that might be) and trust Feldman to redirect and expose Dusak's attempt at dumbing down the jury.

442 posted on 08/01/2002 12:06:34 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: UCANSEE2
That particular line of questioning, dusek was pointing out the moisture factor...and that the bugs would not have crawled in through the anus if the moisture was absent.
443 posted on 08/01/2002 12:07:27 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
We need to consider whether the body was laid down near the tree and drug to it, or whether the DRAG MARKS and the clumps of hair along a trail leading back to the NORTH (I believe) are correct.

Not familiar with the distance involved but my assumption was that any dragging would have been from pulling the orange blanket out from under her.

I also would put more weight on her being dumped within 24 hours of her abduction certainly not 12 days. Further, no signs on the body that it was eslwhere.

So no matter who did it, I find the bug guy's dates problematic.

444 posted on 08/01/2002 12:08:28 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I got a message that says this thread has been moved to chat...WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

I got the same message and all the posts were changed from read (blue) to unread (red). Thought I'd lost everyone.
445 posted on 08/01/2002 12:08:34 PM PDT by I. Ben Hurt
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Does he think that he can tinker around with Tom, Dick and Jane's studies and get someone to say that the body was depostied there when he wants it to be?

(1) I believe he is trying to do what lawyers always do, discredit the witness.

(2)OTOH, he can use technique #2 which is bore the jury until they decide to ignore everything they heard (prosec. and def. questions) from the witness.

It is like a game of chess. Sacrifice the pawns.

446 posted on 08/01/2002 12:08:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: redlipstick
We'll miss you.

I, for one, don't post because I have nothing to add. Others have almost always made points that I would have made, before I had the chance to post them. Unlike certain others, I remain silent when I have nothing to say.

447 posted on 08/01/2002 12:09:13 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: redlipstick
You have a good time.. the people on my list lurk more than post. I noticed some of them are now removed from ucan's list...not sure why. It's ok.....we simply keep plowing forward, and read what we want, and don't read that which is offensive.
448 posted on 08/01/2002 12:10:25 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: VRWC_minion
Excuse me.....but i don't EVER recall being rude to you....with that said.... there is a TON of sh!t going on on these threads that i would expect from a bunch of 6th graders....and it is getting old.....
449 posted on 08/01/2002 12:11:30 PM PDT by is_is
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To: I. Ben Hurt
I was afraid we were going to a live chat or somethign..of which we'd have no permanent record..
450 posted on 08/01/2002 12:11:40 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
Well, Goff and Rodriguez will come to his rescue.

LOL !!!!

451 posted on 08/01/2002 12:11:46 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: redlipstick


we're here... just ignoring you
452 posted on 08/01/2002 12:11:55 PM PDT by kayti
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To: bolthead
My problem with this science is its reliance on averages. I apply averages in order to project/predict financial data without looking at other factors that might affect the ultimate calculations as only a last resort.
453 posted on 08/01/2002 12:12:03 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: redlipstick
Cry me a river
454 posted on 08/01/2002 12:12:36 PM PDT by calawah98
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To: AmusedBystander
"You all need to consult with a coroner before making such statements."


WELLLLLL, EXCUUUUUUSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE ME!

455 posted on 08/01/2002 12:14:12 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
That particular line of questioning, dusek was pointing out the moisture factor...and that the bugs would not have crawled in through the anus if the moisture was absent.

I keep losing the feed today. Missing most of the testimony.

Dusek giving testimony again, huh?

:)

Question: if the moisture were absent, where did it go?
WHen?
How long would the body have to be stored somewhere unavailable to bugs for it to get rid of that moisture so the bugs didn't attack the 'anus' once it was left out under a tree ?

456 posted on 08/01/2002 12:15:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: is_is
Excuse me.....but i don't EVER recall being rude to you

Thank you.

457 posted on 08/01/2002 12:15:22 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: redlipstick
I am on UCANSEE2's ping list and I DO come to the threads everyday. I just don't usually post much. I also have BIG doubts that Westerfield committed this crime. IMO, the prosecution has not proven DW's guilt. In fact, after watching the trial testimony since day one, I am even more convinced that DW is most likely innocent.
458 posted on 08/01/2002 12:15:48 PM PDT by TXDeb
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To: VRWC_minion
It is possible that his answer was to the result and not to the concept but that wasn't how I heard it.

I think you are correct that he doesn't understand the concept. However I doubt that median would ever be a factor in his calculations. I was surprised when Goff said that he took each day's high and low and computed a "median". This whole thing may stem from the fact that Goff doesn't understand the difference either.

459 posted on 08/01/2002 12:16:21 PM PDT by bolthead
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To: redlipstick
FYI over a hundred of us have moved to the refuge sight, just to get away from the immature behavior! (If the shoe fits WEAR IT!) We only lurk and post here when it's pleasant.
460 posted on 08/01/2002 12:17:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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