Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!

Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[Freedom2specul8]

If body is enclosed, the bugs wouldn't have an effect for 4 days? (dont' quote me, garbled, lost feed)

[agarrett]

What would you do about the child porn charges? (I understand that we have not been privy to the questionable images, but going on assumption that they really are child porn)

  Well, knowing what we know here (which is different from what the jury has heard), I would probably return not guilty, but nowhere near as easily as I would on the kidnap/murder charge.

  First off, I think the guy's been railroaded, and would be loathe to give the prosecution even the minor victory - which I grant is not supposed to figure into a juror's reasoning, but there you go... Secondly, some of the pictures shown were recovered deleted files, which argues, to me at least, that he'd downloaded them as part of a bundle, seen what they were, and got rid of them (that calculation would change immensely if they were deleted after 2 Feb.) Given that, I'd probably be inclined to suspect the others were downloaded similarly.

  The guy has a porn habit, which I find distasteful, but doesn't appear to be a kiddie porn collector. That, combined with my disgust at the prosecution, would likely lead me to return not guilty.

Drew Garrett

[FresnoDA]

Wow KIM...

This BUG-GUY from the State of Missouri is really kicking Dusek's EGGSPURTS in the acorns.....

LOL

Is this better....sorry, I had my hearing aid turned down...../so

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

He sure is ringing Dusie's bells. It also helps that he speaks to/for the layman.

[hoosiermama]

ROFLOL

[Freedom2specul8]

Feldman...hypothetically, if a child was killed feb 1-4, stored in a storage compartment, dumped nude on dehesa... ????

witness: if body was dumped at night, blowflies would attack as soon as opportunity presented itself..

Would blowflies delay infestation for 5 or 7 days.... NO he wouldn't expect it.

[Jaded]

S/b salad bar.

[Freedom2specul8]

Flies are resiliant to drought...

[UCANSEE2]

You must be right about the WAD OF HAIR around the CHOKER.<{P>That is what the testimony says.

I don't think much interpretation is needed by either one of us. You are right about it being a large wad or clump of hair.

[Spunky]

With the kind of mummification that was described on Danielle's body would not have chanded this forensic entomologist time line at all.

The blow flies would have entered the mouth, nose, eyes, anus, vagina right away.

[UCANSEE2]

Exactly what I thought. Sidebar/salad bar/side salad, what do you want judge ?

[Freedom2specul8]

if mummified: it wouldn't change his earlier conclusion..teh blowflies would access... to natural orfices when they have an opportunity.. (mouth, nostril, ears, eyes, genital and anus)

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

swirling reasonable doubt?

Yep. Now we have three and a half bugsters saying that the body couldn't have been there as early as the 5th.

Considering that LE frequently uses entomology experts to prove cases, they can't deny the science.

So where do they go from here? Looking for the real perp???????

[Freedom2specul8]

ants: do ants gather blowfly larva?

Witness, have been indicated as predators

Any ant evidence in this case? There was an ant in the collection...there were some ants at the scene but not in extrodinary numbers.

Is it possible that ants could destroy blowfly population LOST Feed..NO, ants are predators...and if the ants are that effective, we would not have blowflies.

Opinion alert: duh

[I. Ben Hurt]

Defense will go last I think. I'm curious where FR posters get info I can't seem to find. I've read the preliminary hearing posts and witness testimony but miss many things such as Barbara not being present while the pizza was being eaten, a neighbor saying PDVD has a local girlfriend, things evidently not testified to. Is there another site to look up this info? I'm watching Court TV via little satellite dish and it keeps skipping out. It's perfectly clear and sunny here in Kansas today so can't figure out what's the problem. Anyone else having this trouble?

I've been lurking at FR for a long time, too bashful to post but finally decided to go for it. Hi to all.

[Spunky]

He says Goffs calculations were all off. (My words)

But we all knew that. Didn't we.;-)

[Freedom2specul8]

disagreement within bugologist community wrt:maggot mass (LOST FEED)

[Eva]

The Michigan entomologist on Court TV agreed that the body was probably not there until after Westerfield was under police surveillance. He said that the prosecution should be looking at other possibilities to prove their case, such as an accomplice (which he said was unlikely), or more likely, a window in the police surveillance during which time DW could have moved the body.

[dread78645]

He says Goffs calculations were all off.

I bet Bob Hall double checked his arithmetic last nite . . .