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For better or worse, Pete Rose will crop up whenever the Hall of Fame election and induction ceremonies crop up, not to mention the sort of thing for which baseball government does see fit to engage him. With apologies to Ozzie Smith, whose induction comes this weekend and who richly deserves the Hall of Fame... but Pete Rose is simply not going to go away. And thanks to baseball government's behaviour regarding him since Giamatti's death, he has a point.
1 posted on 07/26/2002 2:58:29 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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Calling all my baseball people...calling all my baseball people...
2 posted on 07/26/2002 6:11:39 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: BluesDuke
I believe Pete should be allowed into the HOF--based on his on-field performance.
Not so sure about the banned from baseball for life --I have changed my view on that a few times (right now I think he should remain banned).

I also want Shoeless Joe to be allowed in.


3 posted on 07/26/2002 6:20:24 PM PDT by CARDINALRULES
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To: BluesDuke

This is the man who could have used the hook slide rather than plowing like a hijacked airliner into Cleveland Indians catcher Ray Fosse, to score the winning run in an All-Star Game that was neither meaningless nor of championship import. Technically (the rule against blocking the plate is never enforced officially), Fosse may have assumed a given risk, but he was more a step or two up and in front of the line, priming for a sweep tag. But deeming a part of town high crime "as a rule" does not grant thugs a right or licence to rob, mug, rape, or murder.

Rose was entitled to his part of the plate, regardless of the month or festivity of the moment.

When he stepped between the chalked lines, Rose had one intention.........win.

He should be be in the HOF.

If Giamatti were to roll over in his grave, nobody would care.

4 posted on 07/26/2002 6:26:39 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: BluesDuke
You do not absolve Pete Rose of his real enough sins (and if you think baseball's Hall of Fame has a small pocketful of shady characters and even criminal ones, you certainly have not had a look at the NFL lately), when you say that baseball government since Giamatti's death has behaved toward him in ways we would condemn if we saw the government government behaving likewise toward an ordinary citizen.

These folks apparently haven't been reading the news. Pete Rose was treated no worse than Billy Dale was. Did this guy condemn the Clinton administration for its treatment of Billy Dale? I hope so.

WFTR
Bill

13 posted on 07/26/2002 6:59:26 PM PDT by WFTR
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