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To: Overtaxed
That and the mental picture he had before of Strider running behind.....do you think Pippin might be psychic?

you know, we discussed this over at the imladris thread...I'm more inclined to believe that Pippin has an extra dollop of intuition that picks up clues from who or what around him. I don't know if that is called psychic or just plain clever, but I have had moments like that myself, where reality breaks through inward thinking.

...or it could be that the Tooks were blessed with faery blood, as Tolkien makes some passing reference to in 'The Hobbit', giving him the root from which he can sense beyond whats going on behind him.

There is an substory going on with Pippin and Merry, beyond the obvious that has intrigued me since I read TTT. I half wonder if Tolkien didn't consider going further into a story with him. But then I also read somewhere that Tolkien had also considered having Pippin 'killed off' in some noble or heroic deed. I am very glad he didn't.

Going off topic here, I am just wondering if I am the only one who is bothered by the general interpretation that the actors/directors/promoters have about Tolkien's work...I just read up on the report on TORN about Dom's take on a certain Treebeard scene...he makes a comment wondering if Tolkien wasn't on some kind of 'mushrooms' when he wrote about the hobbits drinking with the Ent. Why is it that something creative and wild like that has to involve mushrooms or drugs or some stupid hippie concept????

I am getting BEYOND tired of everything meaning in this world being filtered through the 60s Hippie World View. Didn't we leave the 60s and 70s behind years ago...like in the 80s?????????????????

310 posted on 08/05/2002 2:19:54 PM PDT by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
I'm more inclined to believe that Pippin has an extra dollop of intuition that picks up clues from who or what around him.

He needs all the clues he can get! Sorry, I couldn't resist. :)

I'm glad CS Lewis aka "the Hobbit Hater" didn't talk him into killing Pip.

313 posted on 08/05/2002 3:15:17 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Alkhin
...Why is it that something creative and wild like that has to involve mushrooms or drugs or some stupid hippie concept??

Tells you far more about the "speaker" than anything. As folks move away from an unmoveable "standard" and just 'decide for themselves' what things mean, they get further and further from truth. More shallow, and immediate lacking any real texture or content.

315 posted on 08/05/2002 3:51:58 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: Alkhin
Didn't we leave the 60s and 70s behind years ago...like in the 80s?????????????????

No, they just grew older. Now they (collectively) are running the country. Film at 11.

Tuor

320 posted on 08/05/2002 5:52:34 PM PDT by Tuor
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To: Alkhin
Going off topic here, I am just wondering if I am the only one who is bothered by the general interpretation that the actors/directors/promoters have about Tolkien's work

Amen. We are afflicted by small minds, perhaps made smaller by too many strange substances. They use the 60's filter because that is as far as their minds can travel. It's convenient, easy and hip.

We are dealing with actors here after all -- not great linguists, philosophers or scientists. We're looking at the far left side of the IQ bell curve. Just because they can present and reflect great (or lesser) literature from script (with direction) doesn't mean they have the slightest clue about the depth of meaning of the source.

No one has ever been drummed out of the Actor's union for lack of intelligence. Just look at their lifestyles, that'll tell you about all you need to know.

323 posted on 08/05/2002 6:21:07 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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