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To: Sabertooth
I was against the spirit of . . . [Proposition 187] for my state," Bush said of the 1994 California measure. "I felt like every child ought to be educated, regardless of the status of their parents."

OK .. did just a "little" research on prop 187 and it seems to have covered several issues like medial health care, social programs, seniors and one being education

By that quote above it sounds like Bush didn't like the education portion of it .. which I can understand for several reasons .. one being if these kids are not in school then they will be on the streets which will end up with even a bigger problem and cause crime rates to increase even more

Now I understand you will say that they are illegal and shouldn't be here .. but might I also mention that their parents maybe illegal but if these children were born in the USA .. then they ARE US citizens

Then there is how will the State know exactly who is legal and who is not .. seems to me that the State would also need to fork out more funds to find out who should attend the schools and how shouldn't

Bottom line .. it seems to me that this prop 187 wasn't worded very good ..

Now I know you won't like my answer .. so let's hear it .. LOL

11 posted on 06/02/2002 7:53:01 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
OK .. did just a "little" research on prop 187 and it seems to have covered several issues like medial health care, social programs, seniors and one being education

By that quote above it sounds like Bush didn't like the education portion of it .. which I can understand for several reasons .. one being if these kids are not in school then they will be on the streets which will end up with even a bigger problem and cause crime rates to increase even more.

Why is it California's job to educate kids here Illegally from other countries?

Mexico's crime rate is Mexico's problem.

Now I understand you will say that they are illegal and shouldn't be here .. but might I also mention that their parents maybe illegal but if these children were born in the USA .. then they ARE US citizens.

Children who are citizens would not have been affected by #187, regardless of Bush's misrepresentation which I pointed out at #6.

Then there is how will the State know exactly who is legal and who is not .. seems to me that the State would also need to fork out more funds to find out who should attend the schools and how shouldn't.

No, the State would have simply required proof of legal residence... which they do anyway at our colleges and JCs to determine who qualifies for in-state tuition.

A little extra paperwork and not much extra bureaucracy.

Remember, the schools report to the state their daily attendance, as that's how they're paid.

Bottom line .. it seems to me that this prop 187 wasn't worded very good ..

The wording was fine, it got killed by a leftist judge and our current corrupt Governor.




14 posted on 06/02/2002 8:14:09 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Mo1
Bottom line .. it seems to me that this prop 187 wasn't worded very good ..

Prop 187 was crafted by former INS officials, among others. It was struck down by a leftist judge, Marianne Pfaelzer (sp?), and Gov Gray Davis, in a backroom deal that denied the proposition review by any court other than that of Marianne Pfaelzer. Two people alone managed to overturn the vote of California voters. This hardly equals the proposition being "badly worded".

19 posted on 06/02/2002 9:24:33 PM PDT by Pelham
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