To: HairOfTheDog
I was talking about the attitude of the movie-Elrond. I get that premise from when he was talking/agruing with Gandalf. All he talked about was how Rivendell was in danger (it was, but then so were other places.) Oh yeah! And he mentioned that Men were weak, scattered, leaderless....like they weren't worth trying to save.
To: Overtaxed
He was not saying they were not worthy of saving, he was doubting that they were strong enough to win against Sauron. It was an assessment of their readiness. What Aragorn would do was not yet known. And he was right. Gondor was not strong or ready. Their leaders were weak and failing. And neither was Rohan. I think it was really nicely crafted dialogue myself!
To: Overtaxed
"And he mentioned that Men were weak, scattered, leaderless....like they weren't worth trying to save."
I think Elrond was referring to the French.
To: Overtaxed
And he mentioned that Men were weak, scattered, leaderless....like they weren't worth trying to save.I think his opinion of man was colored by his disgust with Isidur's actions in not destroying the ring when he had the chance. All of the subsequent torments he placed squarely at the feet of Isildur!
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05/14/2002 7:21:53 AM PDT by
SuziQ
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