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To: Wordsmith
Don't you hate it when you are trying to have a serious conversation and you look out at your audience to find that they are in a food fight?

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Where is the Aragorn doubting that he will be king in the movie? - I just don't see it that way... I am trying to figure out where you all see that.

There is the one line of Elrond's... about him turning from that path, but other than that I never hear Aragorn doubting who he is... and I find him "kingish" throughout, even in Bree where we have just met him and he is at his roughest... I find him to have a majestic quality....

I like his lines when he first pulls Frodo in alot.... tells us that this is a really cool customer... the ranger. But when he later than night explains the ringwraiths to Frodo while he sits on guard with his sword on his lap... He has a worldly and educated tone... You realize that this rough ranger is an educated and deeper man.

I don't see the lines he has with Arwen at the shards to be doubting of his role at all... I see it as a doubt that he would also not fall into the power of the ring as Isildur did... A moment of close refection more than doubt about what he would do... But is that the part you are talking about?

-Hair the PJ-Bot
32,423 posted on 10/10/2002 8:33:30 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Where is the Aragorn doubting that he will be king in the movie?

I think part of it is in the Council when he shushes Legolas.

Knowing the story we can assume he's saying "now's not the time," but it can also come off as "I don't want to deal with that..."

We see that he has accepted his destiny as Boromir dies in his arms...

32,428 posted on 10/10/2002 8:39:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
Where is the Aragorn doubting that he will be king in the movie?

Mainly in that sappy scene with Arwen before (in front of) the shards of Narsil where he laments his weakness as being the same as Isildur's. He is definitely questioning his kingly (I almost typed kinkly) qualities at that point. But I'm with you on Aragorn overall. He is growing as the story progresses and that is fine....

32,435 posted on 10/10/2002 8:44:40 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'll have to watch the movie again now that I've read the article, and get back to you. Gee, darn! ;)
32,444 posted on 10/10/2002 8:49:52 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: HairOfTheDog; Wordsmith
I agree with you about PJ's Aragorn, Hair. He may have doubts and may fear his reaction to the Ring based on Isildur's weakness, but he knows he will be King.

At the council of Elrond when Legolas is telling Boromir who Strider is, you see Strider lift his chin up like he's saying, "Yeah, I'm the heir to the throne, what're you gonna do about it?"

The only place where I see Aragorn "doubt" his Kingly destination is when he and Boromir are talking in Lothlorien. Boromir ends his "called home by the clear ringing of silver trumpets" speech and tells Aragorn that they will both enter Minas Tirith in triumph. I think the look on Aragorn's face kind of betrays his doubting that will happen. My wife says Aragorn is probably thinking, "Yeah right bub, when we enter Minas Tirith I will be King, I won't just be tagging along with you."
32,445 posted on 10/10/2002 8:49:54 AM PDT by ksen
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