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To: HairOfTheDog
OK Alkhin! - Here is the article that has got you all bugged! - Let's talk about it!

HI HOTdog...Thank you for posting the account about the breakfast with Dom. Have been wrapped up in family life for the last two days. Went out and got my DVD from Toys R Us...question: did anyone else here get theres from that store...and did they get ALL four posters for one DVD? I have a reason for asking this, but I wanted to find out the truth before mouthing off...(as I am wont to do...)

I am a bit curious as to why you included the Directors/producers/promoters as endorsing this view of LoTR through a hippy's eyes in your post over at the Green Dragon... I haven't heard anyone else endorse this view, and I have a feeling a couple of Dom's other comments would cause them to make a frowning face! In other words, I think Dom was talking a little loose here, and only talking for himself.

As per article... you see, the thing about the internet is...it's text...and the thing about expressing emotion is...through text...and the thing about not quite getting the right emotion expressed is a bit of a challenge, especially when one is simply throwing out a comment in order to join in on the general conversation. So please understand, I am not RILED about it, but as I expressed in the other thread, some of the statements that I have heard the various people associated with the film, (not just some of the actors) and yes, even among fans themselves, about the use of drugs in reference to writing the books, hit a nerve. And its a nerve that has become all too sensitive to the cultural influences of the past 30 years. Sorry, but I am in my mid-thirties. I remember the 70s the first time around...and all the silliness that came with it.

and no, I do not have 'actual' documentation of each and every one of the above mentioned people (writers/directors/etc)...they have ALL been EXTREMELY true to the spirit of Tolkien's work. You are correct in gently pointing out that I should not make blanket statements like that. My apologies.

However, when director/actors/etc proudly proclaim their undying love for John Lennon, the little alarm bells go off. How could they POSSIBLY favor *HIM* over Paul McCartney, the TRUE musician of the group???? GAH. The correlations that spring up in my mind are unavoidable...

John Lennon=drugs=so-called 'creativity'=unkempt hair and beard=hippie.

Sorry, but I remember all of that too. I was SO GLAD when Duran Duran came out with their beautiful faces and beautiful hair cuts. The slap in the face the 70s needed.

Just my humble opinion!

17,138 posted on 08/06/2002 6:07:56 PM PDT by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
OH SO SORRY...I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED...MY COMPUTER BLIPPED AND I THOUGHT THE POST DIDNT GO THROUGH!!!

sorry!!!!

17,140 posted on 08/06/2002 6:08:54 PM PDT by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
Alkhin: I understand (and agree with) your dismay on this subject -- and I probably (in agreeing with you) wrote the most inflamed post about it.

This [can't help it, sorry] idiocy about drugs enhancing creativity, or even being the source of creativity, has become a generally-accepted tenant in our society. And it is pure bunkum. It can only be believed if one thinks that "I am the Walrus" is as creative as Bach's Brandenburg Concertos or as meaningful a poetry as Frost's or Kipling's.

It is both ludicrous and it has, because of the 60's generation and the 70's "followers" become just another premise that has been forcibly inflicted into our culture by those who are, frankly, cultural nihilists.

I'm a tad older than you, mid-40's -- and I remember the 70's probably even better. And if burns me up to hear this clap-trap as well. And I've got no patience for it. Stoned out of your mind, you think any garbage is deep and meaningful. I know, I have the experience.

Thus, on a subject such as this, I'm probably not fit for decent company or genteel discussion. So I apologize to Hair and all as well for my flaming agreement with your premise and arguement.

17,142 posted on 08/06/2002 6:34:10 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Alkhin; Scott from the Left Coast; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; JenB; 2Jedismom; Corin Stormhands
Hullo! Back from showing the horse... he showed himself well, and they are interested... They will have to come back to do any dickering with Bob on price... but they aren't really ready to buy yet anyway.

I am glad you got to get all that out about the drug scene! - I could tell you had more to say on the subject! I don't know what flaw I have in my personality that fails to get me upset about it, but that doesn't mean you aren't both right!

Alkhin... I heard on TORN about the four poster deal... but I got mine at blockbuster.

Sorry to all those who are DVD-less tonight! It is really a wonderful thing!
17,155 posted on 08/06/2002 9:52:26 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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