Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.
In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:
Our discussion has been light:
It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog
However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB
Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr
Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog
Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB
Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed
To the very philosophical:
…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla
To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…
…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB
Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog
…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1
Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed
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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom
…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253
Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed
So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.
I've been looking for a good double griddle on which to make my strawberry pancakes. I stole this idea from a little restaurant in Brattleboro VT! They sandwich fresh strawberries between two layers of pancake. You put the first layer of batter down, very thinly, then put thinly sliced strawberries on it. Then you pour another layer of batter over the strawberries, flipping when the first side is done. They are SO good, but you need a double griddle or the process would take an hour!
The problem I'm having is that the griddles with the handles sticking out the ends are too LONG for the burner area on my rangetop. I found a Calphalon griddle with handles that are perpindicular to the pan, but that sucker is EXPENSIVE! I'm waiting for a coupon for 'Bed, Bath and Beyond' or 'Linens and Things' to show up that offers $ of any purchase. At least it will help a little!
I guess I must be a Hobbit, I sure like cooking and eating! At least the tops of my feet are not hairy, though after a summer in my Birkie sandals, the bottoms are rather tough!
Kind of like "Lost in Space" but with a real plot and interesting characters...
Looks like Lothlorien at night, huh?
See...that's the kind of office I want. I have one, but nobody pays me to work there.
Speaking of windows and private bathrooms, have you ever been in the ladies' room on the top of the Columbia Tower? (yes, there's a story associated with the question)
Girl, you'd better fetch your medicine before you drink that one!
That I DON'T like. Lights should just BE, in my opinion! I admit I thought the effects were pretty cool when I was little, though. Maybe it's all the time I spent watching them back then that makes me hate them now...
With our Christmas production, we have to do that.
I'm kind of getting excited tho. With our new siding and freshly painted windows, our house will look entirely different at Christmas this year. I bought new "big" lights for the tree inside, so I can use all of my small lights outside now.
So your house looks like the Griswolds' house at Christmas?
hehehe... I was thinking of the old movie serials of the 30s and 40s... the kind where at the end of an episode you'd see the hero's car crash and burn... and at the start of the next episode you'd get the camera shot of the hero rolling out the door of the car just before it crashed! :)
"DANGER! DANGER! BILBO BAGGINS!!"
Yes, but with fewer trees, unfortunately! :)
LOL! I just left my lights on the backyard tree last year. It is very tall, and I didn't feel like hauling the ladder out in the cold and snow, then by the time it got warm, I figured, why bother! I did take lights off the bushes in front, so I'll have to put those back on in mid-November before the weather gets too cold. We use the tiny white lights in front, but a combo of large and small multicolor lights in the back. We started decorating the one in the back because we can see it from our kitchen table and it is so cheerful to look out there and see the lights, especially when there's been a big snow! We usually light it up on Thanksgiving, the same day I start using my Christmas Dishes. They have a lovely scene of a snow covered village, so I use them all winter long for Thanksgiving, Christmas, company and Sunday Dinner.
What got me was the power company having to start up another generator.
Gandalf! You've changed!
Yeah, that was great...and I love the music at that part of the movie. Too funny!
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