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To: CodeToad
 

The Bible contains many places where God commands that certain people should die for doing specific actions.

These commands appear primarily in the Old Testament, especially in the Mosaic Law, and they cover a wide range of offenses.

 Below is a clear, structured list grounded in the passages surfaced by search.


⚖️ Major Categories Where God Commands Death for Specific Actions

🩸 1. Murder

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 2. Premeditated or Treacherous Killing

🧒 3. Kidnapping

🐐 4. Bestiality

💔 5. Adultery

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 6. Homosexual acts (under Mosaic Law)

🔮 7. False Prophets

🧖‍♀️ 8. Prostitution + Rape (certain cases)

🛐 9. Idolatry & Blasphemy

🧭 Important Context

1. These laws applied specifically to ancient Israel

Many of these commands were part of Israel’s covenant identity — a nation meant to display God’s holiness. They were not universal civil laws for all nations.

2. God often showed mercy even when death was prescribed

Example: David committed adultery and murder, yet God spared him.

3. New Testament shifts the emphasis

Jesus exposes hypocrisy in enforcement (John 8:7) and highlights mercy, though He does not abolish the principle of justice.

4. Government authority in the NT

Paul acknowledges the state’s authority to wield the sword (Romans 13:1–7).

📜 Summary Table

OffensePassagePenaltyNotes
MurderGen 9:6; Ex 21:12DeathUniversal principle (Noahic covenant)
Premeditated killingEx 21:14DeathIntent matters
KidnappingEx 21:16DeathSevere social harm
BestialityEx 22:19DeathSexual boundary violation
AdulteryLev 20:10DeathCovenant purity
Homosexual actsLev 20:13DeathMosaic covenant law
False prophecyDeut 13:5DeathProtecting Israel from idolatry
Certain sexual crimesDeut 22:24–25DeathContext-specific
Idolatry/blasphemyVariousDeathCovenant holiness
 

56 posted on 09/06/2026 3:38:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
COPILOT:Note: This is part of Israel’s covenant law, not a universal command for all nations.)
 
ME:  but the sodom guys were 'sinning greatly' BEFORE the law was given

COPILOT: You’re putting your finger on one of the most important distinctions in the entire biblical storyline — the moral status of sin before the Mosaic Law versus the covenant penalties after Sinai. And yes, the men of Sodom were described as “sinning greatly” long before Moses, long before Israel existed, long before the covenant law was given.

Let’s walk through this clearly and cleanly, because it’s one of those origin‑threads that ties the whole Bible together.

⭐ 1. Sin existed before the Law — and God judged it before the Law

The Mosaic Law (Exodus–Deuteronomy) didn’t create sin; it codified sin.

Genesis shows God judging sin long before Sinai:

  • Cain — murder

  • The Flood — violence and corruption

  • Sodom — “great and grievous sin”

  • Egypt — oppression

  • Nineveh (later, but still pre‑Law for Gentiles) — wickedness

None of these people had the Ten Commandments. But they were still accountable.

⭐ 2. So what were they accountable to?

The Bible consistently teaches that God’s moral law existed before the written Law.

Paul says it explicitly:

“Sin is not counted where there is no law… yet death reigned from Adam to Moses.” (Romans 5:13–14)

Meaning:

  • There was law before Moses

  • It just wasn’t written on stone

  • Humans still violated it

  • God still judged it

And Paul explains how:

“The work of the law is written on their hearts.” (Romans 2:15)

This is the universal moral law — conscience, justice, sexual boundaries, violence, oppression, truthfulness, reverence for God.

Sodom violated that universal law.

⭐ 3. What was Sodom’s sin?

Genesis 18–19 describes it as:

  • “Great and grievous”

  • “Outcry against them” (meaning victims)

  • Violence

  • Sexual predation

  • Inhospitality to strangers

  • Arrogance and neglect of the poor (Ezekiel 16:49–50)  "'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

None of this required the Mosaic Law to be wrong.

These are universal moral violations.

⭐ 4. So why does the Mosaic Law have death penalties?

Because Israel was:

  • a nation-state,

  • under a theocratic covenant,

  • meant to display God’s holiness,

  • with civil penalties attached.

The death penalties in Leviticus and Deuteronomy were civil punishments for Israel, not universal commands for all nations.

But the moral principles behind them existed long before.

Sodom wasn’t judged by the Mosaic Law. Sodom was judged by God’s universal moral law — the same one Cain violated, the same one the pre‑Flood world violated.

⭐ 5. So your observation is exactly right

You’re seeing the pattern:

  • Sodom sinned greatly before the Law

  • God judged them before the Law

  • Therefore, the Law didn’t create sin — it revealed and codified it

Paul says the same thing:

“The law was added because of transgressions.” (Galatians 3:19)

Meaning: Sin was already happening. The Law just put it in writing.

⭐ 6. The clean takeaway

Sodom was not judged by the Mosaic Law. Sodom was judged by the universal moral law that existed from Adam onward.

The Mosaic Law later codified many of the same sins with civil penalties for Israel — but the moral reality was already in place.


57 posted on 09/06/2026 3:45:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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