Posted on 09/04/2026 12:05:06 PM PDT by Morgana
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“...forcing women to have children.” Whoever said this is an idiot.
What a lefty nitwit...now a dead lefty nitwit.
I don't. Even GOD wishes that she'd repented of her sins.
I feel good that I'm doing what I can to cool the Earth back down.
< I don’t. Even GOD wishes that she’d repented of her sins.>
Agreed, but once the point of repentance has passed, she must swim in the lake of fire.
True, but we shouldn’t gloat before that happens.
Proverbs 24:17–18
“Do not gloat when your enemy falls;
do not let your heart rejoice when he stumbles,
or the LORD will see and disapprove…”
Obadiah 1:12
“Do not gloat over your brother’s day of misfortune…
do not rejoice over the people of Judah in the day of their destruction.”
Job 31:29
“I have not rejoiced at my enemy’s misfortune
or gloated when disaster overtook him.”
Proverbs 17:5
“Whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.”
“Love your enemies… pray for those who persecute you.”
(Matthew 5:44)
“Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.”
(Romans 12:21)
Who is gloating? I’m certainly not.
I think so too.
Sorry. It just sounded that way to me.
I take comfort knowing she is now and eternally answering to the ultimate authority.
< I take comfort knowing she is now and eternally answering to the ultimate authority.>
I was saying the same thing, perhaps in a way that was perceived as gloating. Good day to you.
The Secret History of Feminism
That is the name of a book written by Rachel Wilson, who is the young woman interviewed. It doesn't come across immediately, but she is (I think) unusually intelligent, but also charmingly down-to-earth, without any of the "brain-proud" attitude you get from other young authors.
I first saw this video close to a year ago. It was the one I was trying to find for you; I had to wait for "the algorithm" to serve it to me.
It has been a good day!
This is the day that the Lord has made...
A lovely song than we have relegated to kid’s ministry...
https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/c/4
Anyone who claims others should die is advocating murder and should be put to death.
The Bible contains many places where God commands that certain people should die for doing specific actions.
These commands appear primarily in the Old Testament, especially in the Mosaic Law, and they cover a wide range of offenses.
Below is a clear, structured list grounded in the passages surfaced by search.
Exodus 21:12 — “Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death.”
Genesis 9:6 — Foundational principle: whoever sheds human blood must have their blood shed.
Exodus 21:14 — If someone kills willfully and treacherously, they must be put to death.
Exodus 21:16 — Kidnappers must be put to death, whether the victim is sold or still in possession.
Exodus 22:19 — Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.
Leviticus 20:10 — Both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13 — Mandates death for male same-sex intercourse. (Note: This is part of Israel’s covenant law, not a universal command for all nations.)
Deuteronomy 13:5 — False prophets leading people astray must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:24 — In specific circumstances (e.g., consensual adultery in betrothal), both parties were executed.
Deuteronomy 22:25 — Rape of a betrothed woman carried the death penalty for the man.
Mosaic Law includes death penalties for:
Idolatry
Blasphemy
Certain family offenses (summarized in OT legal sections)
Many of these commands were part of Israel’s covenant identity — a nation meant to display God’s holiness. They were not universal civil laws for all nations.
Example: David committed adultery and murder, yet God spared him.
Jesus exposes hypocrisy in enforcement (John 8:7) and highlights mercy, though He does not abolish the principle of justice.
Paul acknowledges the state’s authority to wield the sword (Romans 13:1–7).
| Offense | Passage | Penalty | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Murder | Gen 9:6; Ex 21:12 | Death | Universal principle (Noahic covenant) |
| Premeditated killing | Ex 21:14 | Death | Intent matters |
| Kidnapping | Ex 21:16 | Death | Severe social harm |
| Bestiality | Ex 22:19 | Death | Sexual boundary violation |
| Adultery | Lev 20:10 | Death | Covenant purity |
| Homosexual acts | Lev 20:13 | Death | Mosaic covenant law |
| False prophecy | Deut 13:5 | Death | Protecting Israel from idolatry |
| Certain sexual crimes | Deut 22:24–25 | Death | Context-specific |
| Idolatry/blasphemy | Various | Death | Covenant holiness |
COPILOT: You’re putting your finger on one of the most important distinctions in the entire biblical storyline — the moral status of sin before the Mosaic Law versus the covenant penalties after Sinai. And yes, the men of Sodom were described as “sinning greatly” long before Moses, long before Israel existed, long before the covenant law was given.
Let’s walk through this clearly and cleanly, because it’s one of those origin‑threads that ties the whole Bible together.
The Mosaic Law (Exodus–Deuteronomy) didn’t create sin; it codified sin.
Genesis shows God judging sin long before Sinai:
Cain — murder
The Flood — violence and corruption
Sodom — “great and grievous sin”
Egypt — oppression
Nineveh (later, but still pre‑Law for Gentiles) — wickedness
None of these people had the Ten Commandments. But they were still accountable.
The Bible consistently teaches that God’s moral law existed before the written Law.
Paul says it explicitly:
“Sin is not counted where there is no law… yet death reigned from Adam to Moses.” (Romans 5:13–14)
Meaning:
There was law before Moses
It just wasn’t written on stone
Humans still violated it
God still judged it
And Paul explains how:
“The work of the law is written on their hearts.” (Romans 2:15)
This is the universal moral law — conscience, justice, sexual boundaries, violence, oppression, truthfulness, reverence for God.
Sodom violated that universal law.
Genesis 18–19 describes it as:
“Great and grievous”
“Outcry against them” (meaning victims)
Violence
Sexual predation
Inhospitality to strangers
Arrogance and neglect of the poor (Ezekiel 16:49–50) "'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
None of this required the Mosaic Law to be wrong.
These are universal moral violations.
Because Israel was:
a nation-state,
under a theocratic covenant,
meant to display God’s holiness,
with civil penalties attached.
The death penalties in Leviticus and Deuteronomy were civil punishments for Israel, not universal commands for all nations.
But the moral principles behind them existed long before.
Sodom wasn’t judged by the Mosaic Law. Sodom was judged by God’s universal moral law — the same one Cain violated, the same one the pre‑Flood world violated.
You’re seeing the pattern:
Sodom sinned greatly before the Law
God judged them before the Law
Therefore, the Law didn’t create sin — it revealed and codified it
Paul says the same thing:
“The law was added because of transgressions.” (Galatians 3:19)
Meaning: Sin was already happening. The Law just put it in writing.
Sodom was not judged by the Mosaic Law. Sodom was judged by the universal moral law that existed from Adam onward.
The Mosaic Law later codified many of the same sins with civil penalties for Israel — but the moral reality was already in place.
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