Posted on 08/02/2026 1:41:18 PM PDT by Twotone
Joseph ben Matityahu, better known as Josephus Flavius—the Roman name Titus Flavius Josephus given to him after his surrender—is a deeply controversial historical figure. The man who left his fellow Jews and joined the Romans ultimately became the principal chronicler of Jerusalem at the time of its destruction. Today, his writings remain the most important source on the fall of the Second Temple.
Born into a priestly family in Jerusalem, Josephus commanded Jewish forces in the Galilee during the Great Revolt against Roman rule. After his forces were defeated, he hid in a cave with a group of commanders. The others chose to kill themselves rather than surrender, but Josephus, the final survivor, emerged and gave himself up.
He was brought before the Roman emperor as a prisoner, but later developed close ties with the imperial authorities and became associated with Titus. Under Roman patronage, he documented the war for Jerusalem. His writings, particularly The Jewish War, are regarded as indispensable historical sources. Even critics who condemn his decision to abandon his people for their enemies rely on his accounts when studying the destruction.
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I’ve always liked the essentially passing references to Jesus in Josephus’ work. Discussion here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
Interesting piece. The impression I get of its conclusions is, ‘It’s spotty,’ as one might expect of production under duress.
Eusebius is another candidate for such inquiry.
It is amazing we have such words available in a post- literate age.
I am currently listening to the audiobook of “Evidence That Demands a Verdict” and in it, the author makes reference to the writings of Josephus to support the existence of Christ as a historical figure.
I admit, it seemed odd to me that there are people who about the existence of Christ as a real historical figure, as odd as that sounds, but it is apparently a thing.
Is this a case of some movement among biblical scholars to again attempt to show that Christ was not a real person and did not historically exist?
In any case, “Evidence That Demands a Verdict” is a pretty amazing book.
Sounds like an AI analysis is more supportive of Josephus as reliable, rather than less reliable as some apparently desire.
Interesting.
I have a very old version, The complete works of Flavius Josephus.
Some Jews consider him a traitor, others rank him high as far as ancient history goes.
So: Trust the Plan!
Having worked with a few Israeli Archaelogists (like Pesach Bar Adon and Michael Patrick), they all questioned parts of his works. Many times, however, he was proven correct and I had the impression that it was “well, he doesn’t agree with my preconceived thinking, so he must be wrong.” It is true that he worked for the Romans, but most of that was suspected to be forced servitude.
Evidence Demands a Verdict is a great book. Written by an atheist lawyer that started off researching all of the evidence to prove that the Biblical Jesus was only a myth. Oops.
Hold onto to your copy so when AI scans them and burns them and then claims the book proves that Jesus is a myth you still have the accurate, original account. Just kidding, sort of.
I had to laugh somewhat grimly at your statement “just kidding… Sort of”!
I have to say, I haven’t had a lot of exposure to this kind of research into the antiquities, and how they determine what is valid and what isn’t, and I find it to be completely fascinating.
One thing I have observed from the book, is that biblical scholarly work is held to somewhat of a different standard than Standard non-biblical scholarly work.
The author of the book seems to see this pretty clearly…
I just saw someone say that online the other day. ‘There is no evidence that Jesus even existed’.
Yet there is from writers of that period.
Actually by Josh McDowell. You may be thinking of Lee Strobel.
It seems silly. But there is.
This has been a wonderful and fascinating journey for me reading this book.
I believe.
Josephus is a pretty good historian in my opinion.
Not perfect, but worth the read for any historical minded Freepers.
And we believe AI? Why?
“from writers of that period”
Josephus, Mathew, Mark, Luke, John.... who else?
Strobel was a journalist who actually investigated the evidence rather than coming up with rationalizations defending why he shouldn't analyze the evidence, which is what passes for atheistic intellectualism. I suspect he actually had the law professor Simon Greenleaf in mind. Greenleaf, McDowell, and Strobel are what you get when a reasonable skeptic actually interacts with the evidence rather than offering excuses on why they don't need to analyze the evidence.
IMO, if not for antisemitic and anti-theistic prejudices in academia, Josephus would be recognized as being on par with Herodotus for the significance of his historical works.
It is a great book. I have an autographed copy of it on my shelf. I heard Josh McDowell speak once, and he signed my book for me. Very enlightening book and speaker.
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