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To: rlmorel
How about we DO something when it is required rather than wringing our hands in fear that an election might be lost? That takes courage. Real courage and backbone to do WHAT is needed, WHEN it is needed.

Amen.

We should be done with political footballs. That only prolongs a long slide into hell.

Trump KNEW that an open conflict with Iran would be an immediate hit on his approval, would likely jar the economy, and cause a rise in inflation through fuel supply disruptions, causing real pain. He had to know that this was absolutely necessary to ensure the long-term survival and safety of U.S. interests, including at home. That is real courage, leading the brigade into battle despite the naysayers.

46 posted on 07/30/2026 8:06:52 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left)
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To: fwdude

“causing real pain”

If paying $5/week more for gas would cause you real economic pain, you’ve got bigger problems than buying gas.


71 posted on 07/30/2026 8:22:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (The data centers might be hunting down guns. Black tape device cameras and PC microphones.)
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To: fwdude
"...Trump KNEW that an open conflict with Iran would be an immediate hit on his approval, would likely jar the economy, and cause a rise in inflation through fuel supply disruptions, causing real pain. He had to know that this was absolutely necessary to ensure the long-term survival and safety of U.S. interests, including at home. That is real courage, leading the brigade into battle despite the naysayers..."

Exactly. Well put. These same people who you and I would characterize as "naysayers" post agitatedly that Trump went in with no plan. That he didn't take the mid-term election into account. That he didn't even think of the possible hit on the economy.

It was hilarious (yet disturbing) to read those same people post with a straight face "Trump had no plan for Iran shutting down the Strait of Hormuz" as if this very thing had not been looked at, war-gamed, planned for, contingencies considered, and thought about by thousands upon thousands of military personnel for decades.

Yeah. There was no plan. And. by gosh, Trump never even dusted off those plans until the first Iranian mine appeared or the first Iranian missile was fired at a ship.

It is pretty hard to take those same people seriously.

79 posted on 07/30/2026 8:26:42 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est)
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To: fwdude

If Trump wanted an easy way out just ask Congress to formally declare war on Iran. Let Congress make the decision. Make the vote public.


102 posted on 07/30/2026 8:37:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: fwdude

It did not need to be done when he did it. It was rushed for the wrong reasons and that is why the mess of the SOH and the attacks on surrounding countries has created a situation that has actually made things worse.

The nuke program, according to Trump himself, was obliterated in 2025. No way did they repair all that damage in less than a year.

All the excuses and tired old cliches that get thrown around by the neocons types are just excuses to cover for why we got into this mess. How anyone could think that after 4 years of Biden and the democrats that this country was actually prepared to take on a huge country with over 90 million people, mostly radicals, who have spent years prepping for us to come in there is unbelievable.

Absolutely no time was spent trying to prepare Americans for a major conflict. In fact, it was treated like another in and out, two weeks and we are done, operation.

Trump campaigned, and was elected to be the guy to keep us out of stupid middle east conflicts. How many times did he flame other Presidents for engaging in the middle east debacles? No surprise that over 60% of the people aren’t liking this.


162 posted on 07/30/2026 9:17:12 AM PDT by dforest
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