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To: Mariner
I don't think the decision to wage with Iran was the right choice at the right time. However, we are in it, and the President must recognize that if the United States is going to win, defined as opening the Strait of Hormuz, eliminating the ability of Iran to develop nuclear weapons and delivery systems, and toppling the Tehran regime, we must go all out. That means massive ground troops and sending the fleet into the Persian Gulf. The Saudis, the Israelis, and the Gulf States must pitch in to assist in a land invasion. This will mean the loss of thousands of American military men and the destruction of capital ships. Trump must pursue this war to victory, even if the Republicans lose both houses of Congress and a majority of the state legislatures. At this point, he has a narrow window that closes on January 3, 2027, assuming the Democrats control Congress.

Trump has to take the risk, as not opening the Persian Gulf will serve to drive up energy costs, as our strategic reserves are draining down rapidly. The Ukrainians are doing a good job in destroying Russia's oil infrastructure, which limits their export ability. The Houthis are attempting to shut off the Red Sea, denying the Saudis their back door for exporting oil and natural gas. Trump must appeal to American patriotism and our ability to defeat our foes in the World Wars and the Cold War.

16 posted on 07/22/2026 1:36:55 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

“The Houthis are attempting to shut off the Red Sea, denying the Saudis their back door for exporting oil and natural gas.”

The oil for Europe wouldn’t come near the Houthis.

As for China and India, I’ll self-censor.


19 posted on 07/22/2026 1:41:56 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (The data centers might be hunting down guns.)
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To: Wallace T.

“This will mean the loss of thousands of American military men”

It would be Israeli commandos, maybe two dozen at each site.

Any Iranian within a mile will get blasted by remote control drone. Most Russian combat deaths are probably by remote control drone. Ukrainian killers sit in comfy chairs in front of monitors in air-conditioned rooms. They have to be relieved if they wish to enjoy a cup of coffee or a soda.

As operations are almost certainly planned, I’ll not speculate deeply on the matter.


25 posted on 07/22/2026 1:50:35 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (The data centers might be hunting down guns.)
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To: Wallace T.
That means massive ground troops and sending the fleet into the Persian Gulf. The Saudis, the Israelis, and the Gulf States must pitch in to assist in a land invasion.

So we are going to send American men and women to die for Israel?

Sounds like Israel First.

28 posted on 07/22/2026 1:56:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Israel First. America second.)
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To: Wallace T.

We are such pansies.

Now this is a war!
https://www.sandboxx.us/news/watch-this-rare-combat-footage-of-b-17-bombers-raiding-germany/?product-page=5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvnqgQQYuM
My teenage Mom was down there.

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/bombing-berlin-biggest-wartime-raid-hitlers-capital
When you went for food (what little food was available) you had to walk down the wide avenues as building on both sides were burning,


59 posted on 07/22/2026 2:52:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (There is no entity more arrogantly ignorant than a White Liberal Woman.)
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