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To: Pontiac; Jan_Sobieski; Gen.Blather; Wuli; blitz128; bert; desertsolitaire
Pontiac: "There is a bigger issue on the near horizon that will impact the budget more than the Peace Dividend.
The all consuming interest on the national debt.
Every year our budget deficit requires more and more borrowing.
Every year recently fewer and fewer countries are willing to buy US securities.
Recently the cost of borrowing has risen for the US.
Default is looking more likely all the time.
Hyper inflation is certainly a possibility.
Every country that has ever used fiat currency eventually fails."

I understand that and agree, up to a point, but consider:

  1. For starters, let's remember, every government in history eventually failed.
  2. No great nation/republic/empire ever lasted forever.
  3. On average, large empires last around 300 years, though a few last much longer while others are relative flashes in the pan.
  4. Governments come & go -- when they fail & bankrupt their countries they get overthrown by revolution or invasion.
  5. That's why many truly ancient civilizations have very recent governments -- China comes to mind: thousands of years old, but governed by the CCP only since 1948.
In that sense, the US is already one of the world's oldest governments.
The list of current governments older than the US is quite short:
  1. San Marino (in Italy) since 301 AD
  2. Iceland's Althing parliament since 930 AD
  3. England/Britain's parliamentary-monarchical system since 1689
  4. USA since 1776.
The UK's empire is particularly instructive:

World of Empires, circa 1900:

Here's the current problem: Bottom line: "Marginal improvement" might be enough but:

100%+ national debt/GDP ratios -- like the US, UK and several other major economies now carry -- are 100% manageable and reducible, if and only if:

For starters.

In short: US national debt is manageable & reducible, so long as the economy does well.

77 posted on 07/07/2026 5:18:41 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
2% inflation, low unemployment and high labor participation rates become normal. For starters.

I am not sure that high labor participation rates are likely.

This past week's Supreme Court Ruling blessing birth right citizenship makes it difficult to achieve.

Unless we can seal the borders long term we will have a flood of illegal aliens coming here to give birth and collect welfare.

The USSC has given us the curse that will just keep giving for a generation or more.

The Democrats will most likely achieve their goal of single party rule. They will also achieve their goal of economic equity. Equity of poverty.

78 posted on 07/07/2026 9:42:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminisheRs the human spirit.)
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