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In 1825, a rich Welsh industrialist bought an entire American town to prove that socialism could work.
X ^ | 07/02/2026 | Students foe Liberty

Posted on 07/02/2026 9:01:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

In 1825, a rich Welsh industrialist bought an entire American town to prove that socialism could work.

He had the money, the buildings, the theory, and hundreds of eager followers waiting to move in.

Two years later, it was over. 🧵

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Interesting story. Rest of it on X.
1 posted on 07/02/2026 9:01:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Many of us don’t have X, don’t want X, and don’t want a profile on any social media. Who is the person and where was the town?


2 posted on 07/02/2026 9:03:40 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

Thank you. Agree


3 posted on 07/02/2026 9:05:24 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: SmokingJoe

What town? Detroit?


4 posted on 07/02/2026 9:06:34 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Labyrinthos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Harmony,_Indiana


5 posted on 07/02/2026 9:07:19 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: RWGinger

If it doesn’t work and its been proven should we have to put up with it? Make it illegal?


6 posted on 07/02/2026 9:07:34 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Labyrinthos

https://xcancel.com/i/status/2072447065397825701

Robert Owen paid around $150,000 for the town of Harmonie, Indiana. He got 20,000 acres, more than 160 buildings, working mills, and farms already producing food.

He renamed it New Harmony. Close to a thousand people arrived in the first year.


7 posted on 07/02/2026 9:08:11 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SmokingJoe

https://lawliberty.org/the-failure-of-a-socialist-dreamer/


8 posted on 07/02/2026 9:09:48 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Practically every cult religious movement since the beginning of time tries to prove “socialism works.”

Recently read about the Oneida Community, a millennial Christian sect formed in NY State in 1848 by a man named John Humphrey Noyes. It exemplified later marxists organizations, with all property held in common and “member committees” making all decisions.

Of course, they also had the post-modern/socialist belief of “free love” and men all sharing the women of the community.

Suffice it to say, this cult didn’t last too long


9 posted on 07/02/2026 9:10:04 AM PDT by PGR88
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Just like what happened with the Pilgrims and our first Thanksgiving .... they tried socialism then and it didn’t work, they almost all starved before ending it.


10 posted on 07/02/2026 9:11:59 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: Labyrinthos

Robert Owen paid around $150,000 for the town of Harmonie, Indiana. He got 20,000 acres, more than 160 buildings, working mills, and farms already producing food.

He renamed it New Harmony. Close to a thousand people arrived in the first year.


11 posted on 07/02/2026 9:15:28 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Owen already ran successful textile mills in New Lanark, Scotland, where he was famous for treating workers well and running a profitable business at the same time.

He believed that if you removed private property and paid everyone equally, cooperation would naturally replace competition.

https://x.com/i/status/2072447068530958753

12 posted on 07/02/2026 9:17:41 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Labyrinthos

+1


13 posted on 07/02/2026 9:18:36 AM PDT by Kudsman (John (no can do) Thune. Where are ya John? We need you John. Send help. Send up flare!)
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It collapsed almost immediately.

The hardest workers were feeding, housing, and clothing neighbors who did nothing while receiving the same food, the same shelter, and the same rewards.

So they stopped working too. Why wouldn't they?

Production dropped and food ran short. Buildings decayed because no one owned them and no one was responsible for maintaining them. Endless meetings replaced actual work. Owen wrote seven different constitutions in two years trying to fix it. None of them worked.

https://x.com/i/status/2072447072565960826

14 posted on 07/02/2026 9:21:22 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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The Socialist idea is this : “Pay workers a living wage while allowing people to not work and still live comfortably”.

So you establish a living wage (say $30 an hour) and then the government takes $20 an hour in taxes so you are really making $10 an hour which is not a living wage. That’s the way Europe is going. You have free services available to everyone but people don’t have money to spend.

That’s why Euros were so amazed at what they found in America.


15 posted on 07/02/2026 9:23:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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To: SmokingJoe
TLDR'd and skimmed parts, but I found a key-word that in my opinion always seems to crop up whenever marxism is tried.

Robert Dale Owen wrote that the members of the failed socialist experiment at New Harmony were "a heterogeneous collection of radicals, enthusiastic devotees to principle, honest latitudinarians, and lazy theorists, with a sprinkling of unprincipled sharpers thrown in,"

The laziness is the part that always grows like a cancer when people are not motivated by self interest. It is just an ugly, selfish side to human nature. A majority of human beings are capable of empathy, but it's not an overwhelming motivator, and tends to take effect mostly with familial and close social bonds. In other words, people are not going to grind their fingers to the bone working hard for a greater collective social group when they perceive others getting off easy and worse, getting fruits of other people's labors.
16 posted on 07/02/2026 9:32:12 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: SmokingJoe

America has a long history of people starting utopian communities.


17 posted on 07/02/2026 9:33:17 AM PDT by fso301
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To: SmokingJoe

If only all socialist experiments lasted 2 years.


18 posted on 07/02/2026 9:36:23 AM PDT by xp38
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Socialism/communism always fails, when the productive people realize they’ve been taken for suckers while the lazy/unproductive failures get all their needs taken care of.


19 posted on 07/02/2026 9:39:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Blue Lives Matter! White lives matter. Remember Iryna Zarutska and Justine Damond.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Summary for those who can’t watch the whole thing - A fool and his money are soon parted.


20 posted on 07/02/2026 9:46:51 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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