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1 posted on 05/25/2026 5:36:58 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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Soon we will have no one who can drive on their own.


2 posted on 05/25/2026 5:37:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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I do not own a Tesla, but they call it “Full Self Driving SUPERVISED”.


3 posted on 05/25/2026 5:42:17 AM PDT by jdsteel (Free, free Persia!)
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“And then the Tesla blew by at full speed!“

The owner will be getting a ticket in the mail . School busses video violations now. The driver could have hit the brakes.


5 posted on 05/25/2026 5:45:15 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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Low down dirty dog stuff, at this late date, not stopping dead in the street for the kids getting on or off a school bus.

It stinks to have to sit around when you’ve got places to go, but living in society has certain trade-offs and limitations.

For a self-driving Tesla to fail to detect a stopped school bus on the other side of the road is bad, bad juju.


7 posted on 05/25/2026 5:47:02 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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And posted speed limits are for normal conditions, not raining/snowing/windy, etc.

You CAN get ticketed for speeding even while going the speed limit if the weather is bad enough.

And what happens in construction zones?


9 posted on 05/25/2026 5:49:06 AM PDT by decal (They won't stop, so they'll have to be stopped)
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Thump Thump !

What was that Elon?

” That was X”


14 posted on 05/25/2026 5:56:36 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!<img src="" width=300</img><a href="">tag</a>))
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What you’re describing is bureaucratic lawyer mindset. As any low level functionary inside a bureaucratic organization will tell you, if you follow the rules with insane attention to detail, you can’t get in trouble. You can’t be blamed for anything.

Asking for software to use judgement is asking it to be sentient. No matter how well AI can fake an interaction and seem human, it can’t exercise judgment and no designer who doesn’t want a prison sentence or a career ending legal judgment would code anything like “judgment” into his software.

And whether or not you get a ticket for six miles per hour over the speed limit is a matter of the officer’s “judgement.” (Oh, and how far off he is from meeting his quota. I know they claim not to have quotas, but a high-ranking Florida Highway Patrol officer was fired for sending out a general email telling the ranks to meet their quota. Someone forwarded it to a reporter.)


15 posted on 05/25/2026 5:59:46 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Oh, gosh! I said that out loud. I'm so sorry.)
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Seems to me the author needs a little more HP in the vehicle if he/she was stuck behind the Tesla for 20 miles..


17 posted on 05/25/2026 6:05:35 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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"I suppose that the issue of failing to stop for a school bus can be seen as a software glitch that can be easily corrected"

That's not a glitch: it's a MAJOR failure, if accurate (we are left to assume there's no mitigating circumstances involving the roadway architecture).

The consequences here? Killing children -- a 'bug' like that should generate a full-blown recall.

18 posted on 05/25/2026 6:05:37 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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One of the best ways to have bad law changed is to start enforcing it.

The Tesla Full Self Driving feature allows the human driver to pick from several modes. One of those modes is to follow the speed limits.

Drivers are able to select a Maximum Speed Offset as much as 20%. For 55 mph that would be 11 mph, or a maximum speed of 66 mph.

The choice is up to the human driver.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/fsd-and-speed-limits.347703/


25 posted on 05/25/2026 6:18:04 AM PDT by marktwain (----------------------)
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84 percent of my Tesla miles are in FSD mode.
I don’t know what model or year he was following, but mine stops for school buses and slows down for school zones.
I just listen to music while the car drives most of the time.
I set my driving style to chill mode. It’s like being in a good limo, quiet, smooth acceleration, great sound system. my only unexpected bump was when a squirrel darted out, froze, then zig zagged zigged. I think it was nuts. I’m still waiting to see the icon for gator in the road.


28 posted on 05/25/2026 6:21:17 AM PDT by Waverunner (Torah! Torah! Torah! my favorite IDF radio code.)
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“”I am old enough that I don’t have to adapt (much) to the oncoming world of AI””

You are not alone! Adapt much!! Do we have a choice? We have to learn to stop yelling at AI over the phone when they go through their mindless routine and you have business you NEED to conduct and perhaps with a time restraint...Not a way you want to start your day...


32 posted on 05/25/2026 6:43:42 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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Why don’t they make nice looking Teslas? Those things are butt ugly and there are millions of the white ones.


33 posted on 05/25/2026 6:47:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (What happened to my tagline?)
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There have been more than a few self driving car incidents with school busses. I’ve been saying all along once there is a severe incident with an autonomous vehicle (like the autonomous trucks now in Texas) and a school bus people are going to take a hard look at this technology.


34 posted on 05/25/2026 7:04:56 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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Older model Teslas have hardware that can’t fully take advantage of the new software as it gets updated. My Tesla saved the life of an idiot on a bike going up monitor pass in the Sierras. He was in the middle of the lane on a blind curve. I don’t know if I could have reacted as fast. In stop and go traffic on freeways where motorcycles pass narrowly between cars my Tesla sees them coming up and moves over in the lane. It makes occasional minor mistakes (mostly navigational) but overall it is an amazing system.


41 posted on 05/25/2026 7:43:02 AM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media)
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As was the case, I’m sure, for everybody on this forum, in order to get my license I had to pass a written test, and if I didn’t know what to do when approaching a stopped school bus with its lights flashing I would have flunked.

But apparently if you’re an AI self-driving protocol, whatever the machine-equivalent to such a written test would be does not exist, and you get the equivalent of your license just by being installed. I don’t like the state poking their nose into everything, but if I have to know the rules of the road I don’t see why my Tesla doesn’t have to.


42 posted on 05/25/2026 7:51:55 AM PDT by Stosh
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I own a Tesla. It sounds like the occupant was not letting it self-drive. In self-drive mode, They have a general habit of driving at the same speed as the flow of traffic. And, they definitely yield to school buses and emergency vehicles EVERY time. This is the giveaway to what you described.

A late model Tesla on the HD4 platform and the latest software will drive better than you can. It's looking in ALL directions ALL the time, and its reaction time is superhuman.

43 posted on 05/25/2026 7:52:30 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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Tesla drivers in my area are fully obnoxious. My son tells me that they all previously owned a Leaf. Virtue signalers are just unholy manifestations from the dark side.


44 posted on 05/25/2026 7:52:32 AM PDT by GingisK
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A boring report and I don’t believe it.

Media is full of anti Tesla anti Musk stories.

That last rocket test blew up at the very end by design.

Social media is loaded with stories: Space X rocket blows up during test!

Yeah he followed a Tesla but no pictures. No one reported the infraction.

Lots of people drive slow and you can set a cruise control on any car for any speed you want.
Not even remotely limited to a Tesla.


45 posted on 05/25/2026 8:14:50 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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I rode in a friend's Tesla a few months ago. I was impressed with the self driving feature. En route home we had a couple of bicyclers turn right in front us as we turned left at an intersection, and the Tesla handled that quite nicely. When a car that was maybe 300 yards in front of us on a highway slowed to turn onto a road, the Tesla detected that and slowed down in advance.

I've always been the "Mr. Safety" if the family, and I came away hoping that, in the future, my sons would have such vehicles.

It also occurred to me that a self-driving car might be a real boon for someone living alone being able to get to a hospital during a medical emergency. I'm sure we'll be hearing such stories in the future.

47 posted on 05/25/2026 8:20:57 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident)
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