Posted on 05/11/2026 5:45:44 AM PDT by delta7
On April 14, a Chinese battery startup backed by one of the world's largest automakers rolled the first A-sample all-solid-state battery cells off a production line in Guangzhou....The company is targeting GWh-scale output by the end of 2026, twelve to eighteen months ahead of where Toyota’s timeline stood at the start of this year. The silver market has not priced this in....
...Greater Bay Technology’s A-Sample Changes the Timeline
Greater Bay Technology (GBT) is a battery startup backed by GAC Group, China’s fourth-largest automaker by volume. On April 14, GBT confirmed that A-sample all-solid-state battery cells are now rolling off its production line in Guangzhou’s Nansha district. The specifications: energy density of 260 to 500 Wh/kg (compared to roughly 250 to 350 Wh/kg for current liquid lithium-ion); stable 2C to 3C fast charging; and a proprietary deep eutectic composite electrolyte that passed needle penetration, extrusion, and thermal shock testing without thermal runaway. Vehicle integration in GAC’s Hyptec models is the target platform. GWh-scale production is targeted by the end of 2026. That last point is what changes the industry timeline. Toyota has been the most credible name in solid-state development for the better part of a decade. Its announced target for mass production has been 2027 to 2028. GBT’s April 14 announcement puts A-sample production hardware in Guangzhou now. Not in 2027. Not in a laboratory. The commercialization clock has moved. Why Solid-State Batteries Are a Silver Story
Samsung SDI’s leading solid-state architecture uses a silver-carbon (Ag-C) composite anode, approximately 5 grams of silver per cell, and roughly 200 cells per pack, producing around 1 kilogram of silver per 100 kWh of battery capacity. In a mid-size EV with a 75 kWh pack, that is roughly 750 grams of silver per vehicle. Current liquid lithium-ion EVs use between 25 and 50 grams of silver per vehicle, primarily in electrical contacts, sensors, and thermal management. Solid-state architecture at Samsung SDI’s silver intensity would represent a 15x to 30x increase per vehicle in silver content....
Rooftops alone would power most of the world.
Japan gets less sun than the USA as a whole.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306261925007974
https://x.com/JessePeltan/status/1918722555126382727
Jesse is the man when it comes to he did the maths type posts.
“How much of NYC would you need to cover in solar panels to turn it into a net exporter of electricity?
NYC uses about 50 TWh of electricity per year.
NYC has ~780 square kilometers of land area, and a GHI of 4 kWh/m^2/day, giving a primary solar resource of ~1,100 TWh/year - more than 20x electricity demand.
Let’s assume we only place panels over existing impervious surfaces on buildings and parking lots.
(the impervious part of the first 45.5%)
That brings our area to 261 sq km and our solar resource to 380 TWh/year.
With 23% efficient panels and 14% system losses (for dust, inverter losses, etc.) we get 75 TWh/year.
We would need to cover ~2/3 of the impervious surfaces in the “buildings & lots” category to generate as much electricity as NYC consumes.
This leaves open all existing sidewalks, streets, parks, vacant land, airports, etc. and doesn’t include any vertical surfaces which could allow for capture of a larger fraction of NYC’s primary solar resource.
The power density of solar PV is high enough to turn the densest city in the U.S. into an exporter of electricity.”
“Wish we had that here for graffiti.”
One can dream....
I would settle for Singapore style public caning on the bare back.
Oh and public short rope drop hangings one week after conviction of any sex crime, arson,homicide, or kidnapping, or home invasion, or armed robbery of any form.
“opposed to cutting down the forest to build a solar array facility.
At least, that seems to be what they do around here in New England.”
We have private property rights and those forest owners know they can get paid twice and more in the long run vs growing 50 years worth of trees.
They get paid for the logging to clear it out then get paid again every month for the solar power they produce if they own the systems or get paid a land use fee if they don’t. Either way they get more money in the bank vs having trees just sit there even rotational logging is less as it takes years for the planted trees to grow to market size once logged.
No conservative should support anyone telling any land owner what they can and cannot do with their land or resources.
If you live trees find a way to make them valuable enough to not cut them down for lumber or land use change.
I suspect those land owners received some type of tax credit to put that solar farm on their former timber land.
Which is also the reason why Walmart, Home Depot and all the other major corporations have NOT covered their roofs or parking lots in solar panels. IF there was a financial incentive they would already have done it.
This is why sawmills put in Co-Gen plants that burn their shavings to make steam and electricity. This is because the government in Oregon gave them a tax credit to produce the “green energy”.
They’re stealing copper from our light rail power lines. I imagine those Toyota batteries will be a prime target for silver theft.
Redwood alone reportedly handles roughly 75–90% of lithium-ion battery recycling currently occurring in North America.
Most current feedstock is still:
battery factory scrap,
damaged packs,
consumer electronics,
and early EV retirements.
The above is from Chat GPT
The amount of new lithium ion batteries sold annually in the USA is on the order of 500,000 to 1,000,000 metric tons. Redwood processes in the tens of thousands of metric ton of the above waste streams and they are about 90% of the market. I won’t even go into the ICE vehicle waste stream as the numbers are exponentially greater.
Reality. Toyota signed the deal for Samsung’s Silver battery six months ago. Full production by end of year.
Toyota signed the deal six months ago with Samsung s Silver battery. Full production by end of year….a primary reason for the current Silver shortage.
I do hope it becomes reality.
Most people do not actually realize how far battery tech has come in the last 30 years.
not as fast as computer tech, but still there have been massive gains.
perhaps this is why silver spiked 6 months ago and why China has stopped exports ?
>have you ever seen the tax credits the oil industry gets
So you agree with me; thanks.
“Bruh” “my guy” “ok dude”
1. Don’t call me dude. (Either you know that one or your handle’s spurious)
2. You’re responding as if we’re arguing. Actually you read as you’re typing out a parody of 1980s “Let’s do lunch babe” LA producer stereotypes.
I doubt that buying batteries that cost $2000 over and above the price of normal EV batteries makes any economic sense. They’re not that much better. That would add 5% to the cost of a car. Keep in mind that the cost accountants who seem to run every auto company these days get very enthused if they can save five dollars per car, so as to make their vehicle more profitable and more competitive with those of other manufacturers. An extra $2000 seems to be completely off the table.
While you may be technically correct regarding the relative benefits of electric powered vehicles, there’s no need for you to act like a douchebag. Not everyone is as well and formed as you seem to be regarding particular technical issues…. but, likewise, I am sure that many people are more informed than you are about other issues. Part of what is good about Free Republic is that we are all supposed to generally be on the same side, and even if we disagree about some issues, we should act in a more civil tone with each other than the DUmmies.
Sorry to hear that. I was in a similar position not long ago - but long enough ago that I only got about $30/oz.🤬
“The amount of new lithium ion batteries sold annually in the USA is on the order of 500,000 to 1,000,000 metric tons. Redwood processes in the tens of thousands of metric ton of the above waste streams and they are about 90% of the market. I won’t even go into the ICE vehicle waste stream as the numbers are exponentially greater.”
For years, there has been NOT enough LiIon to recycle for all the installed recycling capacity in the US and Europe, meaning all those recycling factories have so far quite low utilisation rate because of insufficient feedstock. It’s an established FACT.
As to the “ICE vehicle waste stream”, I don’t see what’s the point in a discussion about LiIon recycling??? Another red herring probably.
I replied to your bogus suggestion that **recycling** battery materials would be a huge problem because it’s an “environmental disaster”.
So your link about the supposed environmental disaster caused by mining, even if true (not, it’s just worn out greenies’ bovine excrement), is irrelevant.
“You forgot the fact that there is yet no large scale recycling of the battery materials. “
You are so out of date ...
“I have a book from the 40s that tells how with Nuclear Power electricity will be too cheap to meter, and we will never be wanting for power again.”
One man one vision.
Not a widely held view.
“IMO they’re not completely ready for prime time.”
Two days ago there was a Tesla ahead of me and one behind me. As we went the mile to the next light I passed two Teslas in the opposite lane.
“IMO they’re not completely ready for prime time.”
The title of the best-selling car in the world depends on the timeframe, with the Toyota Corolla holding the all-time record and the Tesla Model Y leading recent annual sales.
All-Time Best-Seller: The Toyota Corolla is the most sold car in history, with over 50 million units sold globally since its introduction in 1966.
Recent Global Leader: The electric Tesla Model Y has overtaken the global charts in recent years, selling over 1.1 million units annually alongside the Toyota RAV4 and Toyota Corolla.
https://www.google.com/search?q=best+selling+car+in+the+world
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