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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; spintreebob
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled ICE Director Todd Lyons just revealed ICE recently busted the largest gift card fraud scheme EVER — and that stolen money was being sent DIRECTLY BACK to military units in CHINAFreedom_Is_Not_Free wrote:

OK, I finally today found an article confirming this from World Net Daily.

https://www.wnd.com/2026/04/ccp-huge-threat-ice-chief-confirms-chinese-illegals/

That is the kind of corroboration I demand today. So call this confirmed, but in the future I will still demand this kind of 2nd sourcing. I will not believe any sole source news that comes down from a poster on “X”, because I just can’t prove it is real and not an AI fake.

Anybody can fake anything and fake it coming from any source they want to fake.

It is not enough to post one blurb or vid from “X”. That doesn’t cut it anymore for me. There must be at least one more source I trust confirming that news.

 I stopped reading World Net Daily years ago when they dropped the ball on corroborating their articles - they said the equivalent of 'we try to use the best sources we can' when they were confronted on false reporting. I know this because I posted this information on a thread many years ago.

Nick Sorter, who carried the video of Todd Lyons has a good reputation for accuracy, better than that of World Net Daily. Sorter is followed by people on X like DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican, Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber; O’Keefe Media Group @OKeefeMedia; Rep. Lauren Boebert @RepBoebert and many others who have proven reliable.

You're demanding I use inferior sources. You may have to seek out such inferior sources for yourself instead of demanding that I do it. 

I'll record the link to this post so that when you make your demands, I don't have to bother others with my explanation - I can just post the link.


34 posted on 04/17/2026 12:27:41 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Just an example. I type in “Nov 2020 GA Vote”. The first 11+ articles give no hint of a dispute. They give a final number. Some give more detail. Select page after page and eventually you find an article that mentions the dispute.

Type in “Nov 2020 GA Vote dispute”. The first 6 articles are among the first 11 in the prior search, but not in the same order. “Dispute” is not mentioned til the 7th article. Yet “dispute” is the subject of the query.... the very nature of the query. As one pages down, Of the first 5 articles that mention the dipute only 1 The GeorgiaRecord could be considered from the “dispute” side. 4 of the first 5 say the dispute is “unfounded”.

Of course, the allegations are neither proven nor unproven. The honest answer is only that we can speculate.

Of the 12,000 difference between Biden and Trump in the original count, 3,000 have been proven fraud, bringing the margin down to 9,000. Of that 9,000 there are anecdotes of fraud. But there has been no serious attempt to prove the allegations... Those who make allegations seem to think that allegations are sufficient and proof is not necessary.

A similar statement could be made about many other events, both political and non-political. Allegations are made. Anecdotal support of the allegations are made. There is no proof, no dis-proof of the allegations.

Allegations are made about illegal immigrants. Anecdotes are told. But there is no proof of how many illegal immigrants are in the US, no breakdown by over-stay of visa vs never a visa or other types of breakdown. just allegations and anecdotes.

Allegations and anecdotes are made about the welfare system. But nobody really knows the extent. How much FRAUD is by the IT Vendors (I claim Deloitte is the single biggest welfare fraudster.) How much FRAUD by Providers? How much FRAUD by recipients? How much FRAUD by Agency staff? We have anecdotes of each type. Anecdotes is all we have.


35 posted on 04/17/2026 2:49:07 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: ransomnote

No, I am not demanding “inferior sources”. I am saying I need another source to confirm anything posted to “X” or any other social media outlet.

That is as clear as I can be. I need a 2nd source to corroborate a social media source.


36 posted on 04/17/2026 4:32:04 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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