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Rudyard Lynch: How World War I Built the New World Order
YouTube ^ | Feb 17, 2026 | Dad Saves America

Posted on 03/14/2026 10:58:26 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

Rudyard Lynch, host of “WhatIfAltHist,” explains how World War I turned Western civilization against honor culture and paved the way for the bureaucratic states of the 20th century. In the aftermath of mass mobilization and industrialized trench warfare, Woodrow Wilson’s vision of the global technocracy began to take shape, coming into full force after the even greater devastation of World War II. The organic, honor-based social order of the old world gave way to a managerial system that wields power by creating its own reality.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: dadsavesamerica; europe; jamesburnham; managerial; managerialrevolution; newworldorder; progressivism; rudyardlynch; thegreatwar; whatifalthist; woodrowwilson; worldwareleven; worldwari; ww1; wwi; youtube
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To: DiogenesLamp
Anchor babies.

Birthright citizenship did not arise from 14A. It started in the colonies with English common law and was carried forth into the States. It has been the law of the land since before the DoI. The English limited it by statute with the British Nationality Act of 1981.

We made common law birthright citizenship a constitutional right with 14A. It will require a constitutional amendment to change it.

21 posted on 03/15/2026 10:35:39 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Anchor babies.

1898.

The common law origin of jus soli begins with the case of Elyas de Rababyn (1290) II Rotuli Parliamentorum 139 where it was assumed that all persons born on English soil were subjects of the King.

It is far better known in common law in Calvin v. Smith, 77 Eng. Rep. 377 (K.B. 1608).

Jus soli existed in the colonies, and later in the states. It is the law of the United States today, without exception or limitation, and has been since before the DoI.

22 posted on 03/15/2026 10:41:05 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Pelham
Teddy Roosevelt made two speeches while President in favor of an Income Tax Amendment.

The Lincoln administration created the then unconstitutional unapportioned income tax, and the Internal Revenue Bureau, later renamed Internal Revenue Service, to enforce the unapportioned income tax.

https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/previous-irs-commissioners

The Office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue was created by Congress on July 1, 1862. The Bureau of Internal Revenue was created to collect taxes used to finance the Civil War. The income tax was abolished after 10 years but the agency remained to collect other revenues. The income tax was reinstated in 1913.

The unapportioned income tax was resurrected but then shut down as unconstitutional in the Supreme Court case of Pollock v. Farmers’ Loan & Trust Co. (1895). It then became necessary to amend the constitution before resurrecting the unapportioned income tax again.

First IRS Commissioner:

George S. Boutwell
Massachusetts
July 17, 1862 to March 4, 1863

23 posted on 03/15/2026 10:59:05 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Gosh. After perusing that screed I’d almost think that the GOP progressives had ceased to exist by the time of ol’ Rutherford.

But of course they did continue, they were especially big in California. And the GOP left that you imagine hadn’t survived is why Teddy was able to pursue his trust busting agenda and create federal agencies to regulate business.

The GOP left was also a major factor in promoting women’s sufferage and the 19th Amendment. One ardent Republican woman who always comes as a surprise is Margaret Sanger, who with her pal Mrs Barry Goldwater, founded Arizona’s first birth control clinic. Go figure. Maybe all of that is rightwing in your book. Or maybe you just aren’t nearly as well read as you imagine yourself to be.


24 posted on 03/16/2026 12:13:00 AM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

Rudyard is a regurgitator more than a thinker
I have one of those as you know

I’m trying


25 posted on 03/16/2026 12:18:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (If u hate Trump you’re stupid or clueless what’s going on)
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To: cowboyusa; Pelham; ProgressingAmerica

That is not true
Anyone can look at the 1932-44 electoral maps and see it
Blue blue and blue

In 40/44FDR slipped in plains states and a couple northeastern

The South has been what it is reflected from its settlement even till today opposed culturally to the puritan northeast mostly

The big shift was Goldwater where he did well in the Deep South and its continued mostly

Now we are overrun with political and some economic as a result of politics refugees from states that are less homogenous in the white community and boast leftist woke politics

How that turns out beyond making housing unaffordable remains to be scene

It should dilute congress seats in our favor

Not that that’s so wonderful considering how republicans often are since their inception

The stakes are very high now

Just look at these clowns over the Save Act

One thing Franklin did was pull the remaining blacks away from whatever reconstruction affections that remained from the GOP

The new deal rightly or wrongly was popular


26 posted on 03/16/2026 12:31:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (If u hate Trump you’re stupid or clueless what’s going on)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

1868.


27 posted on 03/16/2026 6:58:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: woodpusher; DiogenesLamp; Pelham
"Before the Civil War we had no large standing Federal army."

After CW, the army was drastically reduced. The permanent army is owed to Woodrow Wilson.

Besides, this has nothing to do with the managerial state of progressive ideology. They aren't quartering troops in our houses - that is not how progressive ideology works. I won't rely on this irrelevant item again.

In looking at your whole list generally, Good job creating such nebulous sounding phrases though! Generic phrases such as this:

"Before the Civil War we had no unapportioned Federal income tax. Before the Civil War we had no Internal Revenue Bureau, later renamed to the Internal Revenue Service, to enforce the unapportioned Federal income tax."

Watch this. Before the Civil war, we had no Obamacare. Before the Civil War, we had no Medicare. Before the Civil War, we had no Airports(I was going to say TSA but it gets more basic than that). Before the Civil War, we had no Department of Education.

Blast that tyrant Lincoln for putting fedgov into healthcare!!!!!! (Note: We should let Barack Obama off the hook since it was not Obama's fault, right? Yes I should admit the truth. Lincoln gave us Obamacare Lincolncare.)(Note 2: None of these are due to CW. It should not need to be said, but I know better.)

You guys do love your nebulous and un-linked claims.

Now. As to who is actually guilty of giving us the income tax, specifically the 16th Amendment? Theodore Roosevelt. We have the 16th Amendment because of the 26th President. He is the guy. He is guilty. After Pollock the income tax was dead. TR gave it new life. That's progressing America for me.

"Before the Civil War we did not have greenbacks."

Well there we go, before the Civil War we did not have asphalt for roads. The world is doomed. /sarc That's not the managerial state. You've got this pattern here. That's not the managerial state. The pattern persists. That's not the managerial state.

"Before the Civil War, the sovereign States decided who were, and were not, citizens of the State. The path to becoming naturalized into a United States citizen flowed through becoming a citizen of a State."

You probably have a point here perhaps. Given its non-relation to the elites/the experts and managerial state of progressivism, its outside my potential views. I suspect you are twisting something but ultimately I do not care. It's not the experts, its not the managers, I do not care.

"Post Civil War, the Federal government was able to progress into the current Federal leviathan. That's progressing America for ya."

I'll fix this for you.

Post Gilded Age, the Federal government was able to progress into the current Federal leviathan.

Pre Gilded Age, the Federal government was NOT able to progress into the current Federal leviathan. That's progressing America for me.

Hence we get to the whole point. You still have not linked anything with any detail whatsoever. The Civil War came, the Civil War went, it had influence for 1 or 2 decades; 2 or 3 decades tops and then it was nothing. It's been nothing ever since.

It was Progressive Ideology that brought the U.S. to its knees - not the Civil War. The Civil War was a big nothing burger. Massive in its day, for sure. Then it was finished. The world moved on. The world has not moved on from Progressivism.

The only managerial item you mentioned specifically was the income tax. In the interest of keeping these posts shorter...... Expect that to be our only future discussion point, should we continue - or else you got other managerial topics?

I doubt you do.

28 posted on 03/16/2026 7:10:18 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: woodpusher; DiogenesLamp; Pelham
"The common law origin of jus soli begins with the case of Elyas de Rababyn"

Well then go tell DiogenesLamp to stop blaming the 14th Amendment for it.

I'm not the one who needs to hear this. He is.

29 posted on 03/16/2026 7:14:01 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; woodpusher
"Anchor babies."

1290.

(The year)

30 posted on 03/16/2026 7:24:44 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: Pelham
The GOP progressives did not exist until the time of Theodore Roosevelt.

"they were especially big in California"

Wow. Such detail.

31 posted on 03/16/2026 7:26:52 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: woodpusher; Pelham; DiogenesLamp
"The Lincoln administration created the then unconstitutional unapportioned income tax, and the Internal Revenue Bureau, later renamed Internal Revenue Service, to enforce the unapportioned income tax."

All of which was abolished in 1872. Yes, the year 1872. This is really the death knell for the things you believe.

Progressives never allow progressivism to be abolished.

But, there's the rub. Progressives didn't exist until 1900.

(Note: Funnily enough, the income tax was actually abolished twice. SCOTUS did it again in 1894. Pollock v. Loan. And why was the income tax allowed to be abolished twice? Not once, but twice - it's because there were no progressives around to defend it. They wouldn't exist until 1900.)

32 posted on 03/16/2026 7:43:27 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The “organic honor-based” social order failed miserably in 1914. No way were all the kings, kaisers, and tsars in touch with reality. They didn’t see how fragile their rule was and how disastrous war would be. Europe should have made peace itself and let the monarchs retain their thrones, but Europe was incapable of doing that and things had gone too far to save the old order.

Did Wilson create the “new world order”? Well, no, because his new order collapsed. Republics became dictatorships and collapsed in the Second World War. Also, there was still some continuity in Europe even after Wilson: WWI swept away the old continental empires, but Britain and France remained global superpowers attached to their old ways until WWII and after, when the old colonial empires fell apart and a new world order was born. Maybe FDR created that new world order and Clinton and the Bushes carried on from there.


33 posted on 03/16/2026 8:56:32 AM PDT by x
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To: Pelham
The Republican Party had a large Left wing from Lincoln’s day, the Radical Republicans, right through 1912, which people today seem to know nothing about.

Not so much. For better or worse, "Radical Republicanism" was dead by 1880.

34 posted on 03/16/2026 9:00:25 AM PDT by x
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To: ProgressingAmerica
That's you guy's big bugaboo, right? Reconstruction? Why did Hayes end it then if he's so left wing? And the congress of that era. Why did they end reconstruction if they were such committed ideologues as you like to claim?

I think you are pinning too much of your argument on one guy. Reconstruction would have to end at some point just as a practical matter, regardless of who was president at the time.

35 posted on 03/16/2026 9:11:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: woodpusher
Birthright citizenship did not arise from 14A. It started in the colonies with English common law and was carried forth into the States.

Well we disagree on that point. English common law was the source for "Subject" status, but natural law is the source for "Citizen" status.

It has been the law of the land since before the DoI.

It was the law of the land *UNTIL* the DoI. After that, the nation begat "citizens" instead of subjects.

We changed the word for a reason. We went with the natural law source that used the word "citizen" instead of the English common law "subject." It is this same source of law that allowed us to throw off allegiance to the King. English common law does not allow this. Therefore we didn't use it except where we continued it for mundane legal matters. Madison wrote an excellent letter on this point, which I have previously asked you to find.

We made common law birthright citizenship a constitutional right with 14A.

The 14th naturalizes babies at birth. Its effect is only through Congress' power of naturalization. Wong Kim Ark explains this. You should read it. :)

It will require a constitutional amendment to change it.

This is likely true, but only because so many of the legal "experts" have been taught incorrectly, and it is simply impossible to correct the problem through education.

And any amendment to change it is virtually impossible.

36 posted on 03/16/2026 9:39:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ProgressingAmerica
1898

The year the City of Brooklyn lost its independence. Coincidence?

I think not.

37 posted on 03/16/2026 9:45:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et des phrases)
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To: Jim Noble; DiogenesLamp; woodpusher
"1898 The year the City of Brooklyn lost its independence. Coincidence?"

LOL

38 posted on 03/16/2026 9:48:55 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: woodpusher
We made common law birthright citizenship a constitutional right with 14A. It will require a constitutional amendment to change it

But, but!

Don't you know about some dead French guy named Voddle or Waddle or something, and a Chinese immigrant in SF named Some Ting Wong?

What color is the fringe on the flag in the courthouse? See!

I rest my case /s

39 posted on 03/16/2026 9:48:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et des phrases)
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To: DiogenesLamp
"I think you are pinning too much of your argument on one guy."

I mentioned many. But ok great. Then show me who. Stop dancing around and show me who. We've repeatedly been here and every time its this re-assertion and re-assertion and re-assertion of the unsubstantiated "fact" that somehow all of the ills of modern big government go to the Civil War and not a person on the planet can actually give details.

Meanwhile all the actual evidence ends at 1900. You give zero reasons to ignore the actual evidence, nor present new evidence.

"Reconstruction would have to end at some point just as a practical matter"

No.

Wrong.

Absurdly wrong.

Ridiculously wrong.

If they were progressives, if they were progressives, reconstruction would have lasted forever. Progressivism does not end. Ideologically progressives cannot let any of it end.

Ever since the progressive era, not one single administrative state agency has been outright abolished. Not one. Progressives have a pristine and untouched 100% record spanning 125 years. Sure we can get some experts fired (DOGE) but the agency itself remains minimally staffed to be puffed back up later. It will live another day. Progressives still at 100%.

40 posted on 03/16/2026 10:09:23 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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