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To: nickcarraway

Isn’t this covered by title insurance?


2 posted on 03/11/2026 11:22:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Isn’t this covered by title insurance?

No

16 posted on 03/11/2026 11:35:19 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: BenLurkin

“Isn’t this covered by title insurance?”

If they had an owner’s policy. Most don’t.


29 posted on 03/11/2026 11:56:07 AM PDT by TexasGator (111'1/11.1II11.X11111.1~I11:/)
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To: BenLurkin

“title insurance”

Exactly. That is precisely why you get title insurance.

But, of course, that’s a lender requirement. Maybe they paid all cash and did not buy title insurance. Lots of uber-rich in California who pay all-cash for houses.


51 posted on 03/11/2026 12:48:33 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (…)
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To: BenLurkin; nickcarraway; thegagline
I asked Grok if title insurance would cover it. Interesting reply that agrees with thegagline's reply:
No, the owner's title insurance would almost certainly not cover this claim or requirement by the city.

Title insurance protects buyers against defects in title—things like undisclosed liens, forged deeds, unresolved ownership disputes, encumbrances (e.g., easements or judgments) that existed before the purchase but weren't discovered during the title search, or issues that make the title unmarketable. It covers losses from those title-related problems, such as having to defend against a claim to ownership or pay to remove a cloud on title.

In this San Francisco case (from the March 11, 2026 New York Post article), the issue isn't a title defect at all. The city is enforcing a zoning, permitting, and land-use violation: the building was illegally converted from a legal four-unit apartment building into a single-family residence years before the current owners bought it in 2021—without the required permits for merging units. City records still classify it as a multi-unit property, and San Francisco's strict policies against losing housing units mean the city is requiring restoration to four units if appeals fail.

This is a regulatory compliance / code enforcement matter, not a title claim.

Key Points from the Article

Why Title Insurance Doesn't Cover This

Standard owner's title insurance policies (like ALTA forms) explicitly exclude coverage for:

Even if a title search missed something related to the unpermitted conversion, most policies wouldn't cover regulatory enforcement costs or forced renovations—these aren't "title defects" that impair ownership or marketability in the insured sense.

Possible Other Options

The owners might have other recourse:

The core problem is the unpermitted work and resulting zoning mismatch, which falls outside typical title policy coverage.

This is a classic San Francisco housing-preservation headache: illegal unit mergers are common historically, but the city cracks down when discovered, prioritizing housing stock over individual owners' expectations. The family is appealing to the Board of Supervisors for a compromise, but if it fails, they'll likely face expensive reconfiguration (potentially millions, plus moving out during work). Title insurance isn't the solution here.

54 posted on 03/11/2026 12:57:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (…)
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To: BenLurkin

“Isn’t this covered by title insurance?”

Read those Title Insurance policies carefully. I’d be surprised if they EVER pay out anything to anybody. The ones I’ve seen cover almost nothing.


76 posted on 03/11/2026 2:31:17 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: BenLurkin

You would think so. Somebody really messed up here. At the very least the listing agent should face a civil suit.


80 posted on 03/11/2026 2:47:07 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: BenLurkin
Isn’t this covered by title insurance?

The issue is how the property improvement is classified (single family dwelling vs. multi-family dwelling) not who holds title or ownership of the property.

86 posted on 03/11/2026 4:13:20 PM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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