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Justice Gorsuch: Would Founding Fathers Be Disarmed as ‘Habitual Drunkards’?
Breitbart ^ | 2 Mar 2026 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 03/03/2026 3:13:36 AM PST by Skwor

Gorsuch then said, “[As for a] habitual drunkard, the American Temperance Society said back in the day, eight shots of whiskey a day only made you an occasional drunkard. We have to remember the founding era, if you want to invoke the founding era, to be a habitual drunkard you had to do double that.” He went on to note that John Adams, the Second President of the United States, “took a tankard of hard cider with his breakfast every day.”

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To: Skwor

I wish that video would have gone longer because I wanted to hear the attorneys answer.


21 posted on 03/03/2026 5:43:51 AM PST by roving
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To: Skwor

Gorsuch should stick with issues at hand instead of daydreaming.


22 posted on 03/03/2026 5:44:28 AM PST by chopperk (e)
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To: chopperk

How do you not see his use of the historical context as to the intent of the constitution is doing exactly what you claim he did not


23 posted on 03/03/2026 5:46:13 AM PST by Skwor
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To: circlecity

Alcohol, marijuana, cocaine, and morphine in varous forms ALL were pretty much in common use in the 17-1800s..

It really only gets to be HUGE issue once the government takes it away, says it’s bad and gives control of it over to the criminals.

not to say any are “good” for you. But...

What would happen if tomorrow they took all the caffiene away? Said it’s bad for you, and the cartels suddenly took control?

And a few years from then, all looked back and said “can you believe these people drank ALL that coffee/ Soda/ etc? Fiends!!!


24 posted on 03/03/2026 5:50:18 AM PST by uranium penguin
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To: HereInTheHeartland

““ Maybe Keith Richards but I guess he’s cleaned up his act.”

Well of course he has. When was drinking with some of the Founders in the late 1700’s, he saw the damage it did to them.”


I recall someone or FR posting a photo of Keith Richards with his first pet.

It was a baby velociraptor...


25 posted on 03/03/2026 5:52:46 AM PST by BBB333 ((The Power Of Trump Compels You!))
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To: Skwor

He’s a pothead trying to use drinkers in his argument as a cover for potheads.


26 posted on 03/03/2026 6:19:39 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Wake up, smell the cat food in your bank account. )
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To: MayflowerMadam

A sane country imports and allows the sale of coca leaf. It is a stimulant beyond methamphetamines, with no downside. Just the leaf, and not enough to manufacture it into the chemical.


27 posted on 03/03/2026 6:23:31 AM PST by Glad2bnuts
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To: Skwor

The difference is that back in the days of our Founders, they had consciences tuned to God. Not so much today.


28 posted on 03/03/2026 6:29:46 AM PST by tcox4575
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To: Wallace T.

Revolutionary era people drank ale and cider because water wasn’t safe to drink. They also drank because life was hard and depressing much of the time.


29 posted on 03/03/2026 6:48:34 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Skwor

Workman’s Comp came about circa 1910.

Intoxicating drugs were made illegal at about the same time.

Incarcerating people is expensive, so governments try to avoid it.

The US government could throw Mr. Pothead in prison where he would not be able to have a gun, however, if the government bows to financial reality, then real iron bars are going to be in Mr. Pothead’s life, only virtual bars.

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SENTENCING AGREEMENT

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I shall not possess or seek to acquire a firearm.

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Signature of Mr. Pothead


30 posted on 03/03/2026 6:56:38 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

The US government could throw Mr. Pothead in prison where he would not be able to have a gun, however, if the government bows to financial reality, then real iron bars are not going to be in Mr. Pothead’s life, only virtual bars.


31 posted on 03/03/2026 6:59:16 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It is interesting to note that the most culturally conservative Christians, the Amish and Old Order Mennonites, drink wine and beer. Tobacco use, in the form of pipes and cigars, is also not unknown among them.


32 posted on 03/03/2026 7:05:32 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Skwor

There’s also the possibility that Mr. Pothead might pick up an addictive drug habit and might pay for it handing over a gun to a dealer who might pass it on to a dealer supplier.


33 posted on 03/03/2026 7:05:46 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Skwor

All this nonsense about unsafe water... They had wells, just like wells today. Water from the underground aquifer is safe to drink, and people then weren’t retarded, read actual texts, not just two hundred years ago, even two thousand years ago... they were pretty damned sharp and understood far more than moderns give them credit for. Beer and ale were consumed because they enjoyed it AND because they needed the extra calories due to a much more active lifestyle, and beer/ale (not so much hard liquor => can be dehydrating then slightly) is an easy way to add some calories while you work and quench your thirst at the same time. For those who work hard outside doing physical labor, the same still holds.


34 posted on 03/03/2026 7:22:11 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: LambSlave

It is not nonsense and the wells of the past were nowhere as deep as the wells we use today and there was a fundamental lack in understanding as to the contaminants that water can carry.

In ancient Rome mixing wine with water was a common practice and well documented, I believe the concoction was called merum.

Also, often water was not only obtained from a well. This is all well (pun intended) established history, do a little research.


35 posted on 03/03/2026 7:33:00 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

In 1794 farmers rebelled when Alexander Hamilton sought to put an excise tax on whiskey. George Washington had to personally lead a contingent of militia to restore order.


36 posted on 03/03/2026 7:55:10 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: HereInTheHeartland

😂


37 posted on 03/03/2026 8:26:54 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: Georgia Girl 2

And to add. Back then they were in pain with bad teeth etc. had to numb it.


38 posted on 03/03/2026 8:29:00 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: Hyman Roth

Another good point!


39 posted on 03/03/2026 8:29:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Wallace T.

People back then, especially in urban settings, drank brewed and fermented beverages because it was safer than drinking water. It had a slight alcoholic content (1-3%) but not like beer we drink today.

Such beverages no longer exist because we can get clean water, so a lot of time people are confusing modern beer to those types of alcoholic drinks.


40 posted on 03/03/2026 8:46:12 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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