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Why Did Notre Dame Opt Out of Participating in Any Bowl Games After tge 2025 Season?
Just Me | 12/13/25 | BradyLS

Posted on 12/13/2025 5:46:05 PM PST by BradyLS

I’ve learned that Notre Dame has decided to opt out of any post-season bowl games this year. They finished the season with a 10-2 record, losing to Miami and Texas A&M. I know they are an independent program/not a part of any conference.

Is this a reasonable decision? Unreasonable? If they played a strong schedule or have a record of beating teams that made it to the 12-team cut-off, I can see understand their POV. (Not saying it’s right. Just that I understand it.)


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To: ConservaTexan
Not participating in a bowl game is because of the ND sense of entitlement

Yep. Notre Dame feels so entitled that University of Texas fans notice…

21 posted on 12/13/2025 7:00:21 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: BradyLS

Quite a number of teams have opted out of playing in any bowl games not just Notre Dame. In fact, some of the really minor bowls, we’re having problems getting anybody to play and they decided to drop the standards to let 5-6 teams in to play that’s how bad it is.

Under certain circumstances, they probably would’ve taken Arkansas at their lousy record. You got something like 45 bowl games that are played. Most of them are just ridiculous.


22 posted on 12/13/2025 7:05:14 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: volare737

I am 70 and I looked it up and back in the hay day. Say about 1970 there were only 11 bowls and out of that only six of them were major bowls that determined who the number one team might be at the end of the year, of course absent the playoff system we have now. But people look forward to those games because they had the best of the best.


23 posted on 12/13/2025 7:07:23 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: BradyLS

Junk the playoffs and go back to the bowls. The Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, the Orange Bowl, etc. should be meaningful championship games between rival conferences, not mere playoffs. And while we’re at it, let’s also junk the transfer portal, late-night kickoffs, weekday games, transcontinental conferences and the two-minute warning.


24 posted on 12/13/2025 7:08:57 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: volare737; Alberta's Child
There would be maybe 4 or 5 players opting out for the NFL draft on that team. The reason you should play these bowl games is the 14 days of sanctioned practices participants are allowed to engage in. Coaches could see what underclassmen can do and start scheming towards their strengths.

Also this builds memories and camaraderie among the players. In ND's case I think the hive mind pressure/butthurt from the AD and Coach/several upperclassmen resonated. Idiotic opportunity missed regardless of the low turnout (Conferences still payout regardless of the turnout).
25 posted on 12/13/2025 7:15:55 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Not this world but the next. Faith, justice, humility, hope, and most important, agape.)
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To: BradyLS

ND is consistently in the top 4 money makers in college football, people like to watch ND play ball and buy there merch so it was stupid not to put them in the playoffs.


26 posted on 12/13/2025 7:22:03 PM PST by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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To: Gil4

“The players get the bowl game experience. “

People don’t realize how important the extra month on the field is- not so much the bowl game experience- but its an extra month of practice which can be critical for redshirt freshman that aren’t playing. Coaches get to install a lot of schemes they will be using the following year...remember- colleges are restricted to the number of organized team practices they are allowed to have...


27 posted on 12/13/2025 7:23:04 PM PST by God luvs America
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To: BradyLS

Conference titles matter. When you play an independent schedule for the TV dollars…you might just lose out.


28 posted on 12/13/2025 7:23:06 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ConservaTexan
I'm a long time Notre Dame fan but I agree with a lot of what you said. Thing is, they lost to #10 Miami in the first game and then #16 Texas A&M. Miami lost to Louisville & SMU, both unranked. Up until the final week Miami, same record, but lost to much weaker teams always trailed the Irish in the run up to the playoffs. Then after the final, a week where neither team played, only then did Miami move ahead and make the playoffs.

Was that fair? I don't think so. Is there an ND sense of entitlement? Absolutely. But I don't think they're the only ones.

I kind of wish they would drop the college part and just call it athletics. IMO college has always been about primadonnas and entitlements. Who can blame one school over the other.

29 posted on 12/13/2025 7:23:12 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (GO Lions)
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To: dfwgator
Conferences are too dang big to the point you need to expand this farce to probably 16 teams (And even then there would still be a lot of butthurt). TV revenue reigns so downsizing conferences is a no go. Problem is that teams may just start scheduling non-conference “tomato cans” which will make August and September boring AF. Texas is learning their lesson albeit they are still locked in with a brutal non-conference commitments.
30 posted on 12/13/2025 7:26:32 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Not this world but the next. Faith, justice, humility, hope, and most important, agape.)
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To: rollo tomasi

The bowl game practices have become meaningless in the era of NIL and the grantee portal.


31 posted on 12/13/2025 7:26:55 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry — TRANSFER portal.


32 posted on 12/13/2025 7:29:06 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: rollo tomasi

Agree on the extra practices as i posted but other than Jeremiyah Love, no other ND player would’ve opted out of a CFP bowl game unless they were injured....

Little known fact- the NIL deals these players sign with schools contractually ends between December 31 to January 15 depending on the school and the contracts are structured so the last NIL check the player receives is usually the biggest...if they players opt out of the bowl game they don’t get that last check.

Remember all the BS Sheduer Sanders spouted as to why he played in the bowl game last season? It was for the team, blah-blah-blah??? That was just that- BS...he wanted that last NIL check which was large....

I know of an Oklahoma player from last season who had to play in the bowl game to get his final NIL check of $100,000...if he opted out he would not have received the $$$...he ended up being selected in the 4th round of the draft...


33 posted on 12/13/2025 7:29:31 PM PST by God luvs America
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To: Alberta's Child

Patently false- coaches want the practices for the freshman & sophomores, redshirts or not...


34 posted on 12/13/2025 7:30:59 PM PST by God luvs America
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To: Vermont Lt
Notre Dame has some FU leverage with Universal/NBC where they just schedule 2 “difficult” games with USC being one (And recently have not been a powerhouse). They just beat up service academies and regional entities for the most part.
35 posted on 12/13/2025 7:32:28 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Not this world but the next. Faith, justice, humility, hope, and most important, agape.)
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To: rollo tomasi
Not sure how many hope to be drafted, but there certainly would be several starters. Why would their best players want to play in a meaningless game— if they think they might be drafted? Why risk injury?

I.E. Jerimyah Love, their best player, their running back candidate for the Heisman Trophy likely would not play. Their starting QB would not play. With their best players sitting out—sure, they might lose to what they consider a lesser team, so what’s the point?

36 posted on 12/13/2025 7:36:28 PM PST by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: Alberta's Child

Agreed!


37 posted on 12/13/2025 7:40:15 PM PST by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: Alberta's Child
Only if some financial entity is willing to pay and they have a pathway to start. For the record player scholarships should be voided if you take NIL money anyway. The Student-Athlete illusion has been blown to smithereens. Pull the money and shift it to some other academically gifted student that has financial hardships.
38 posted on 12/13/2025 7:42:07 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Not this world but the next. Faith, justice, humility, hope, and most important, agape.)
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To: God luvs America

They don’t need to travel a couple of thousand miles just to hold practices for a meaningless game.


39 posted on 12/13/2025 7:44:04 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: BradyLS

“...what is the up-side in playing a post-season game that won’t matter?”

Money, lots and lots of it. And declining a bowl game invitation can be costly which is why they declared their not wanting to go. The Big 12 fined 6-6 Kansas State and 8-4 Iowa State for declining invitations to a bowl game. That’s because they lost their conference money.

College football bowl payouts vary wildly, with non-playoff bowls paying conferences roughly $2 million to $7 million+ per team, while College Football Playoff (CFP) teams earn significantly more, starting at $4 million for just appearing, plus $3 million for expenses per round, with top teams earning up to $14 million or more, with these funds going to conferences and then distributed to schools, not directly to players.

However, money from bowl game TV contracts, separate from sponsor money, goes first to the college football conferences, not directly to the schools, and the conferences then distribute it to their member universities based on their own bylaws, often with larger shares for the teams in the high-profile games, plus general revenue sharing, while schools also get revenue from sponsorships and tickets. Major networks like ESPN pay billions for rights, which flows down, creating massive revenue streams for leagues like the SEC, Big Ten, and ACC, fueling the entire system.

Bowl game TV contract money varies wildly, from smaller bowls getting a few million, to New Year’s Six/CFP-adjacent games getting tens of millions, with the expanded College Football Playoff (CFP) itself now part of a massive $1.3 billion annual deal with ESPN through 2032. That’s a lot of test tubes and office furniture.

wy69


40 posted on 12/13/2025 7:45:44 PM PST by whitney69 (`)
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