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Lost Bach Pieces Performed for First Time in 320 Years: ‘Great moment for the world of music’
GOOD NEWS NETWORK ^ | Andy Corbley

Posted on 12/08/2025 10:58:15 AM PST by nickcarraway

Two musical pieces written by Johann Sebastian Bach were recently performed for the first time ever, more than 300 years after they were composed.

Both written for the organ, they are believed to date from the great composer’s very early career, when he worked as a organ tutor in Thuringia.

Germany’s Culture Minister Wolfram Weimer called the discovery of the two pieces a “great moment for the world of music.”

Both pieces were unsigned and undated when they were found in the 1990s by Mr. Peter Wollny, a Belgian Bach researcher working at the Royal Library in Brussels. Entitled Chaconne in D minor and Chaconne in G minor, Wollny wasn’t sure who had written them, but suspected they might have been Bach’s.

That hunch needed 30 years to be realized, as the archivist, now director of the Bach Archive in Leipzig, wanted to absolutely sure of it.

“Stylistically, the works also contain features that can be found in Bach’s works from this period, but not in those of any other composer,” Wollny told the BBC, adding he was “99.99% sure that Bach had written the two pieces.”

Given the Bach catalogue identification tags BWV 1178 and BWV 1179, they were played for the first time in 320 years by Dutch organist Ton Koopman at the St. Thomas Church in Leipzig where Bach worked for 27 years as a cantor. Koopman, as one might imagine, said he was proud to be the first person to play them, and described them as being of “of a very high quality” and ideal for both large church organs and small ones.

A Mount Rushmore composer without a shadow of a doubt, Bach is generally considered to have stood at the pinnacle of his art, with the senior classical critic at the New York Times calling him the greatest. By 1802, there were already biographies of Bach made, and manuscripts of his works being bought at huge expense. In 1850, the first of several Bach societies was organized in Leipzig.

Claude Debussy described Bach as “a benevolent God” to whom musicians should pray before setting to work. Not one, nor two, but three Bach pieces were included on the NASA Voyager’s Golden Record.

A recent concert in Austria saw a 200-year-old Mozart piece performed for the first time when it too was discovered by an archivist under similar circumstances.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: bach; baroque; classical; johannsebastianbach; music
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1 posted on 12/08/2025 10:58:15 AM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 12/08/2025 10:59:51 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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AI will soon be writing new Bach and Mozart pieces like they’re sausages... A new one every week.


3 posted on 12/08/2025 11:04:12 AM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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this thread is worthless without the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOG_mpL9rtc


4 posted on 12/08/2025 11:07:37 AM PST by algore
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1. Would be more realistic if performed on a harpsicord, rather than pipe organ.

2. I can see why Bach lost this piece.


5 posted on 12/08/2025 11:09:00 AM PST by Fido969
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LOL!
First thing I thought of


6 posted on 12/08/2025 11:09:09 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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Great! I’m a real Bach fan!


7 posted on 12/08/2025 11:09:17 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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A link to the music was in the article.


8 posted on 12/08/2025 11:09:31 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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AI will soon be writing new Bach and Mozart pieces like they’re sausages... A new one every week.

And they'll all be shite ... like every other piece of AI "music" to which I have been subjected ...

9 posted on 12/08/2025 11:11:01 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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now a link is in this thread


10 posted on 12/08/2025 11:18:12 AM PST by algore
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Thanks for posting. I imagine they fare better in another player than Ton Koopman, but that's a matter of taste. Watching the manuscript images go by was darn fun. The organ at Thomaskirche Leipzig is not the instrument on which Bach played. Time's ravages.


11 posted on 12/08/2025 11:20:14 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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But AI just takes from existing work?


12 posted on 12/08/2025 11:20:30 AM PST by nickcarraway
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bookmark!


13 posted on 12/08/2025 11:23:20 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ( 🩰🌹)
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Enjoyed the Dewar interpretation very, very much. Thanks.
14 posted on 12/08/2025 11:24:29 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Attended a live event last night, mostly Bach, Christmas Cantatas, so-called Coffee Cantatas, other pieces, and can attest: Three hundred years has not dimmed his brilliance.


15 posted on 12/08/2025 11:38:58 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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Let’s Bach and roll!


16 posted on 12/08/2025 11:52:19 AM PST by Redcitizen
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Exactly... You pump a bunch of Beatles tunes into a computer... Then you just tell the AI you want a new tune, with new words that sounds like the tunes you just fed it... It then gives you a new Beatles tune.


17 posted on 12/08/2025 11:59:23 AM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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Or AI can generate an original song, that can serve as a demo, get real musicians to record it, and pass it off as if you composed it yourself.


18 posted on 12/08/2025 12:01:31 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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The man
Second place is a ways back and it’s more debatable

Smoke on the water intro is Bach inverted per the always amicable Ritchie Blackmore

Page nods Bach often too


19 posted on 12/08/2025 12:01:54 PM PST by wardaddy (If u hate Trump you’re stupid or clueless what’s going on)
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“this thread is worthless without the music (link given)”

There’s a problem with that presentation: the black keys are white and the white keys are black.


20 posted on 12/08/2025 12:04:04 PM PST by cymbeline
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