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1 posted on 12/08/2025 7:04:40 AM PST by MtnClimber
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The handout state is inherently corrupt.

These are just money skimming operations. Some just skim more than others.

2 posted on 12/08/2025 7:04:52 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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If you’re a leftist, you believe the government should control ALL money. Therefore, fraud and theft by leftists is merely taking what is theirs.


3 posted on 12/08/2025 7:14:58 AM PST by brownsfan (We are already on the slippery slope.)
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Our social welfare programs have went from fraud and waste within the margins to endemic, pervasive fraud and abuse to where we are now where the programs are intentionally and deliberately structured to enable r fraudulent looting

The covid program funds were allocated to 40-60% fraudulent recipients and when you see how the money went to politically well connected players it really looks like the programs were set yup for fraud.

4 posted on 12/08/2025 7:20:11 AM PST by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.l)
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This is exactly the state of affairs in Wisconsin with the Teachers Unions.

The politicians vote for more pay and benefits to the Teachers Unions, which then send a portion back to the politicians as campaign funds.


5 posted on 12/08/2025 7:21:14 AM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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The Dems have a pretty good playbook. Have the government pay massive amounts of welfare payments to Blue cities. Divert a good portion of the funding to Dem-affiliated NGOs and non-profits that find a way to funnel the money back to Dem politicians for personal or political use. If the Republicans or anyone else tries to uncover the fraud, scream racism knowing that the GOP will back off.


6 posted on 12/08/2025 7:24:45 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Lots of $$ has disappeared in California too - at the highest levels of government.

Los Angeles, California - billions unaccounted for, earmarked for “homeless services:”

“Billions of dollars in homelessness funding in Los Angeles cannot be properly accounted for due to significant gaps in financial oversight and data tracking...approximately $2.3 billion in city-funded homeless services lacked sufficient documentation, making it nearly impossible to trace.

California GOP leaders call for accountability after state can’t account for $24B spent on homeless crisis.”


7 posted on 12/08/2025 7:29:21 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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Seems like the Trump administration should stop “reimbursement” of State expenditures on these programs until the States prove they are not allowing fraud. Then “confiscate” what would have been due to the States in future until the stolen arrears is paid off. Meanwhile arrest, try, and imprison all the scheme perpetrators and deport foreign recipients.


8 posted on 12/08/2025 7:29:23 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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This has been what has been funding the leftist machine and oligarchs


9 posted on 12/08/2025 7:30:48 AM PST by blitz128
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I am a bit flabbergasted. Why would someone, like this author ask such an ignorant question about how much fraud goes on.

You need to look no further than an election map and notice that all of the Blue Cities sit in a sea of Red districts. Like islands in a sea of red. They vote Blue because their existence depends upon the Democrats staying in power so they can continue the graft.

Graft and Democrats is an synergistic relationship. Graft and Democrats, leading to unaffordability is what I call ‘Cause and effect’. Yet, the entire media and political parties play ‘dumb’ to the reality of the damages to the young generations. Obamacare, CO2 crisis, DEI, Disability, SS fraud, Stealing from sick kids, all leads to more spending that taxes can sustain. That leads to deficit spending and ‘printing money’ which leads to currency devaluation, inflation, and everything being unaffordable.


13 posted on 12/08/2025 7:42:32 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of the Minnesota story has been the revelation of total abdication by the state’s Governor (Tim Walz) and Attorney General (Keith Ellison) of any role in catching or prosecuting the fraudsters.

Remarkable? This pattern was established decades ago here in Santa Cruz County, CA with SSI for "disabilities" forming a substantial fraction of the County's economic base. Why would any self-respecting craven public offal taking care of his or her voter base do anything about Feder-ill money pouring into a local economy? This is how they stay in power with the bonus of granting favors to those with open campaign checkbooks.

14 posted on 12/08/2025 7:58:44 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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How pervasive? It’s a generational culture.


15 posted on 12/08/2025 8:17:58 AM PST by glorgau
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Many illegal immigrants living in the states surrounding Maryland go there for free healthcare.

The federal government reimburses the states for the majority of Medicaid costs.


16 posted on 12/08/2025 8:35:48 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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Obvious next focus needs to be Tlaib’s Dearbornistan. It might establish a pattern and practice among jihad majority cities.


19 posted on 12/08/2025 9:29:00 AM PST by DPMD (u)
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"How Pervasive Is The Kleptocracy?"

Dumb question of the century...
Blue state/city/county/household == Kleptocracy

22 posted on 12/08/2025 10:31:46 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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Totally pervasive since LB fricking J!


23 posted on 12/08/2025 11:05:23 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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The fraud also swells the ranks of government jobs at every level. Someone has to write the grant applications. Dole out the money. Provide the fake oversight. Hide the truth. Sue to prevent the release of accurate data. Staff a judiciary to ignore and or prosecute fraudsters. It is a whole disgusting industry.


25 posted on 12/08/2025 11:43:58 AM PST by Kudsman (Remember the Alamo? Good. Now recall the Plaskett surrender. )
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