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Hundreds of license-plate reading cameras blanket Dallas. Here’s how they’re used
Dallas News ^ | 12 01 2025 | Chase Rogers

Posted on 12/02/2025 11:56:33 AM PST by yesthatjallen

Hours before the sun rose on Dallas police Chief Daniel Comeaux’s first day on the job, an elderly man in a wheelchair was shot dead near Fair Park.

Two days later, the new chief stood among a cluster of officers outside the suspected gunman’s home in west Oak Cliff. He was impressed by one tool the investigators had used to arrive there: the network of license plate-reading cameras scattered across the city.

“I was like, ‘Alright,’” Comeaux recalled saying, referencing the April case months later in an episode of Bridging the Divide, the Assist the Officer Foundation’s podcast, “‘explain this whole Flock camera.’”

Investigators tied the suspect to a second fatal shooting earlier the same month. The story, Comeaux said, was one of his favorites to tell. The chief described how the clarity of the vehicle images surprised him and how officers, with those photos in hand, were able to build a case for the arrest.

The license plate-reading cameras, usually mounted on 12-foot poles, have quickly become standard in police departments across the country, including the Dallas Police Department. Documents recently obtained by The Dallas Morning News through open-record requests indicate Dallas police utilize hundreds of the cameras across the city.

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The company markets what it calls its “vehicle fingerprint technology,” a system that doesn’t just read license plates but analyzes a vehicle’s make, model, color and other cosmetics — like bumper stickers or decals — to flag it across a network of cameras.

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(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


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To: yesthatjallen

Our police cars are equipped with license plate readers. They will know you have car insurance.


21 posted on 12/02/2025 2:26:28 PM PST by roving
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To: yesthatjallen

If they have license plate readers in Wichita, they’ll discover that most tags are out of state. Maybe the state will decide that “hey maybe we should be more competitive with the other states in what it costs to tag here”.


22 posted on 12/02/2025 3:13:04 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I’m in NC which doesn’t require a front license plate. I find that when my bike rack is mounted on the trailer hitch it blocks the view of the cameras. I found this when I accidentally went through a pay-by-plate deal and got a bill. Then later went through with the bike rack. No bill.


23 posted on 12/02/2025 4:01:24 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: yesthatjallen

I was thinking about having cameras outside of my house, but I did not want to offend anyone.


24 posted on 12/02/2025 4:46:16 PM PST by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: dljordan

The biggest hitch in Memphis is the exception database to disregard all politicians, judges, school board members, city council members and spouses, Awntees, nieces, nephews, NFP, NGO, municipal employees, former politicians, and church clergy. That’s the big rub.


25 posted on 12/02/2025 4:50:35 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Leftists bring lies and chaos to a truth fight. )
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To: dljordan
Cities are being sued over these cameras.

Sheeple, it's a waste of your money to do this.

26 posted on 12/02/2025 6:13:03 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
All of this is legal,

For now.

27 posted on 12/02/2025 6:14:06 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Dear white Ford or Chevy pickup owner.

Your vehicle has now entered the Great Unknown database lottery.

317 times daily one of these ‘random’ vehicles will be pulled over, just for a ‘safety check’.

Have fun playing!


28 posted on 12/02/2025 6:17:53 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: yesthatjallen
Blame the tawny and dusky cohort.

If not for them, street crime would be minuscule.

29 posted on 12/02/2025 6:20:56 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: BullwinkleMoose
Used properly within a strict legal framework ...

Yeah! Here's your ticket!!

30 posted on 12/02/2025 6:21:10 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BullwinkleMoose
ME: Here in central Indiana there are plenty of cameras that are Mounted high on traffic lights, aimed directly into the front windshield.

Copilot: You’re noticing something that’s actually part of a broader surveillance and traffic management trend. Those cameras you see mounted high on traffic lights can serve different purposes depending on the system:

  • 🚦 Traffic flow monitoring: Many are designed to detect congestion, adjust signal timing, and improve traffic efficiency.

  • 🚔 License Plate Readers (LPRs): Some are specifically aimed at windshields or rear plates to capture vehicle information for law enforcement (e.g., stolen cars, Amber Alerts).

  • 📸 Red-light or speed enforcement cameras: These are usually positioned to capture violations, though not all regions use them.

  • 🧑‍💻 Facial recognition potential: When aimed at the windshield, they can sometimes capture driver and passenger images, raising privacy concerns.

In central Indiana, municipalities and law enforcement agencies have been expanding networks of LPRs and traffic cameras.

The distinction is important: LPRs are generally used for plate data, while traffic cameras may be tied to enforcement or monitoring.

 

 

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The one between the lights is an emergecy vehicle detector to change lights to GREEN for fire trucks - ambulance - ect.

The high one, nar the street light looks right at you as you wait for light to change


31 posted on 12/02/2025 6:33:26 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BullwinkleMoose
 

Copilot: In central Indiana, those high-mounted cameras are primarily license plate readers (LPRs) and traffic monitoring devices, not speed cameras. Indianapolis alone has about 300 LPRs, while Carmel operates over 130 such cameras. They’re used for crime-solving and traffic management, but not for issuing speeding tickets, since speed cameras are banned under Indiana law.

📸 How They’re Used in Indianapolis

  • Indianapolis Police operate roughly 300 license plate reader cameras across the city.

  • These cameras capture thousands of plates per minute, logging vehicle movement data.  (WHY?)

  • They’ve been used to locate suspects in serious crimes (e.g., murder investigations) by tracking vehicle movement.

  • The system records not just plates but also vehicle details like make, model, and color, creating searchable databases.  (Picture of driver)

🚔 Carmel’s Deployment

  • The Carmel Police Department runs 111 Flock Safety LPRs plus 24 additional ALPR-enabled cameras.

  • These are positioned strategically around the city to monitor traffic and assist investigations.

  • Carmel’s system is part of a broader trend where suburban departments adopt private vendor technology (like Flock Safety) for surveillance.

⚖️ Legal Landscape in Indiana

  • Speed cameras are banned statewide. Indiana law prohibits automated speed enforcement because drivers have the right to face their accuser in court, and a machine cannot serve that role.

  • License plate readers, however, are allowed. They’re considered investigative tools rather than direct enforcement devices.

  • Indiana law permits traffic cameras for red-light violations and traffic monitoring, but municipalities lean heavily on LPRs for law enforcement support.

🔍 Privacy Concerns

  • Critics argue that LPRs track innocent drivers as much as suspects, creating large databases of movement patterns.

  • Civil liberties groups worry about surveillance creep, especially when data is shared across agencies or stored long-term.

  • Some cities nationally have faced lawsuits over the use of these cameras, raising questions about oversight and transparency


32 posted on 12/02/2025 6:37:52 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Franklin

yup


33 posted on 12/02/2025 6:38:54 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SaxxonWoods
...in the mail for not paying tolls.

Who DOESN't get scam "pay the toll or ELSE!" emails?

(Mine come from Canada!)

34 posted on 12/02/2025 6:40:33 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Speed cameras are banned statewide. Indiana law prohibits automated speed enforcement because drivers have the right to face their accuser in court, and a machine cannot serve that role.

Coulda fooled me, as I've gotten a 'warning' ticket for going too fast in an interstate 'work site' with NO work being done there.

35 posted on 12/02/2025 6:44:15 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 

Copilot: You’ve hit on one of those classic Indiana contradictions. You’re absolutely right: speed cameras are banned statewide—the law says automated enforcement violates the constitutional right to confront your accuser in court. A machine can’t testify, so no speeding tickets can be issued that way.

But here’s the wrinkle:

  • 🚧 Work zone enforcement in Indiana often relies on state troopers or mobile patrols, not cameras. What you likely received was a “warning letter” generated from sensor data or patrol observation, not a legally enforceable ticket. INDOT sometimes uses radar trailers or monitoring systems in construction zones to log speeds and then mail warnings.

  • ⚠️ These warnings are not citations—they don’t carry fines or points. They’re meant as deterrents, reminding drivers that troopers could be present and that fines are doubled in active work zones.

  • 🏗️ The irony, as you noted, is that many “work zones” are signed and enforced even when no crews are present. Indiana law allows the designation of a work zone once signs are posted, regardless of whether workers are physically there.

So in short: you didn’t get a camera-issued ticket (illegal in Indiana), but you did get a state-issued warning letter tied to work zone monitoring. It looks official, but it’s more of a scare tactic than a legal citation.

Would you like me to pull up the exact INDOT policy on work zone “warning tickets” so we can see how they justify mailing those notices even though speed cameras are banned? That way you’ll have the forensic breakdown of where the loophole lies.

yes

Here’s the key point: Indiana’s “Safe Zones” program explains why you got that warning ticket—it wasn’t a true speeding citation, but part of a pilot enforcement system in construction zones. The first violation is always a zero‑fine warning, mailed to the vehicle owner, before fines kick in on subsequent violations.

⚖️ Indiana’s Safe Zones Pilot Program

  • Legal backdrop: Indiana law bans speed cameras statewide, but INDOT launched a Safe Zones pilot program in 2025 specifically for construction zones.

  • How it works:

    • Signs are posted at work zone entrances and exits.

    • Drivers going 11 mph or more over the posted limit are flagged.

    • Data is validated, then mailed notices are issued.

  • Penalty progression:

    • First violation: Warning letter (no fine).

    • Second violation: $75 civil fine.

    • Third and later violations: $150 civil fine.

  • Where it started: The Clear Path I‑465/I‑69 construction zone in Indianapolis was the first enforcement site. During the pre‑enforcement period, INDOT mailed 90,000 courtesy notices to drivers.

🚧 Why You Got a “Warning Ticket”

  • What you received was not a legal speeding ticket but a courtesy violation notice under Safe Zones.

  • These warnings are meant to deter speeding in construction zones, even when no workers are present. Indiana law allows a zone to be “active” once signs are posted, regardless of visible work.

  • The mailed warning is essentially a scare tactic—a reminder that fines will apply if you’re caught again.

🔍 The Loophole

  • Indiana still bans traditional speed cameras, but Safe Zones are framed as a worksite safety program, not general traffic enforcement.

  • Because it’s limited to construction zones and structured as civil penalties, the state argues it doesn’t violate the “face your accuser” rule.

  • Critics say this is a backdoor workaround to the speed camera ban, since automated systems are clearly being used to identify violators.


36 posted on 12/02/2025 6:48:52 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The Loophole

 

Words mean things

37 posted on 12/02/2025 6:50:39 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Franklin; HYPOCRACY; dfwgator

It’s ALREADY significantly progressed:

The Plan is to Lock Up Humanity in Digital Smart Cities (CBDC, Facial Recognition, GEOFENCING) (My title - SHORT VIDEO 1:27 long)

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4329921/posts

Geofencing: “Think of it as an invisible fence around you... that will be related to your face recognition, digital identity, and access control”

Big Tech whistleblower Aman Jabbi exposes the digital prison being constructed all around us in this clip from The Agenda: Their Vision Your Future.


38 posted on 12/03/2025 12:50:51 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: rlmorel
Local, state, and federal operations buy the data to surveil without having to go through that pesky warrant “thing” and they aren’t included in any FOIA requests that are made.

Illinois allows LPRs. Earlier this year, the state informed those jurisdictions that have them to stop instant access for out of state authorities.

39 posted on 12/03/2025 1:45:45 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

That sounds like a step in the right direction if I read that correctly.


40 posted on 12/03/2025 5:33:56 AM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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