Why the Nazis studied American race laws for inspiration

Aeon Essays ^ | 2017 | James Q Whitman

[Fury]

I'd say that the old race laws would have prevented such recent horrors inflicted upon Iryna and Bethany.

Good grief, what a pathetically racist comment.

Your post is exhibit one of the increase in posts of overt racism.

Instead, argue for judges having less discretion when sentencing repeat offenders, and more time required to be served before eligible for parole.

[jmacusa]

I understand the Germans got the idea for the concentration camps from what the British did in South Africa during The Boer War.

[jmacusa]

Hitler was a great admirer of Margaret Sanger.

[TexasKamaAina]

This wasn’t about the Wannsee conference.

[CondoleezzaProtege]

The Holocaust was much more sophisticated, orderly, and systematic than a set of pogroms. And fully legal at that. It involved citizens at every level in the entire country to accomplish, not just a few ‘demoniacs.’ People did what they did because they wanted to follow Hitler yes, but also obey the LAW.

And that’s how it all started. By changing LAWS and they studied America’s and other countries’ and made their own, in a way that served their aims.

By trying to dehumanize responsibility for these massive crimes to a small group of “demoniacs” - while ignoring the feat of convincing the populace of the most scientifically/technology advanced European country — is manipulative at best - and at worst, absolves us from the real lesson: which is that if they were capable of such things, we are too. Might be different players, but same game.

[CondoleezzaProtege]

I understand the Germans got the idea for the concentration camps from what the British did in South Africa during The Boer War.

The above article is specifically about the influence of America, but it in no way means that it was ONLY American laws in play…The Nazis were in tune with racial situations all over the world.

[ansel12]

“””””””absolves us from the real lesson: which is that if they were capable of such things, we are too.”””””””

Mamdani’s victory really unleashed your hate America campaign.

[Lurker]

So go find another forum.

You won’t be missed.

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[Governor Dinwiddie]

You are racist, Fury, because of your obsession with being a racial gauleiter.

Just the facts. In less than a year's time, in the last 11 months, three innocent White women have been maimed or murdered while riding public transportation, maimed by subhuman animals.

• Debrina Kawam, December 22, 2024, torched and burned alive by a subhuman. New York City.
   
• Iryna Zartuska, August 22, 2025, jugular cut and bled out, Charlotte, NC, by crazed Negro.
   
• Bethany MaGee, November 17, 2025, fighting for her life in hospital. Torched with gasoline on November 17, 2025, Chicago by an indigo criminal.

Yes, the old laws would have stopped these crimes in their tracks. As Sgt. Friday would have said, "Just the facts".

In the last year, how many blacks riding public transportation have been murdered by White people? Hmmm?

[Chgogal]

You are absolutely correct. But please Ping me when The Left fully accepts its responsibility for Germany's National Socialist's Party of Hitler's Death Camps, Stalin's/Communist Party's Gulags and Mao's extravaganza of death.

https://factsanddetails.com/china/cat2/sub6/item1081.html

Tens and tens of millions of people were brutally murdered under Socialist/Communist governments.

W need to never forget and never forgive. If we do, it will happen again.

[mass55th]

"This wasn’t about the Wannsee conference."

Thanks. I realized that after I sent my comment. The main point being, that whatever law Hitler wanted was hand-stamped and implemented by the Reichstag. It wouldn't matter to Hitler what U.S. Race Laws were. His main attack was against the Jewish religion and the ethic group associated with that religion. Hitler stripped all German Jews, half and quarter Jews (called Mischling) of their citizenship.

Hitler's hatred was also geared towards aristocrats and Jews who had wealth and property, and he stole from both consistently. American blacks and Native-Americans weren't persecuted because they were wealthy or because of their religion. It was solely based on the color of their skin.

Hitler stripped blacks (those from German African colonies) of their citizenship, but it was rare for blacks to be sent to concentration camps, despite the fact that they weren't allowed to hold a job, or attend school. If Jews were married to gentiles, the marriages were dissolved. Same thing with blacks married to white Germans. Those marriages were also dissolved. Black men and the children of those marriages could be sterilized. Many were.

I don't believe Hitler based the Nuremberg Laws on U.S. Race Laws. The Nuremberg Laws were specifically created to remove all Jews completely from society. That's why I don't understand of what importance Krieger's studies would have been.

[lonestar67]

The Democrats were and are the authors of hyper racist laws like the anti black laws of the south.

Wilson was the super genius villain of the anti black agenda.

[Fury]

Not your call.

Posters that post racist crap are going to get called out.

Don’t like it? Tough.

[gundog]

Hadn’t eugenics swept the world by 1934? To say nothing of Maggie Sanger’s work.

[Fury]

Just what I expected from you.

But you got busted for posting racist crap, and most people don’t like it when they get called out.

Instead of advocating for less discretion on sentencing, serving more time before eligible for parole, or any number of other changes, you post that old race laws that go against an entire race may have been able to stop those horrible deaths.

Except you ignorantly don’t know that. At all.

Do better.

[CondoleezzaProtege]

700,000 Americans died in the US Civil War. The country was spared… Then Jim Crow follows…Country still advances through the turmoil…

Of course the rest of the world was curious about America. Even if they weren’t planning a Holocaust. This government “of the people, by the people” experiment was ongoing…and European observers aplenty came to keep tabs and learn how America operated. Not just Germans.

Regarding Krieger and what the Nazis were interested in…Because of their fixation with racial purity, they took note of things like ”one drop rule” as well as the federal ban on interracial marriages. They realized the ‘one drop’ rule and other points can’t be as readily translatable in their context (re: Jews) so they molded their laws to what worked best for them, and suited their aims.

Krieger (and his peers)didn’t just spend time in the US. They visited other places too. There was a general interest in how different parts of the world handled their versions of their ‘race problem’ - South Africa being another example etc...

Evil is evil at the end of the day…And so it makes sense that they admired what was most evil about this country too. Rejecting any virtue…

[gundog]

Sticklers for rules that they were, I would not doubt that the Germans would look to American law to legitimize the codification of their own views on race. But they were no strangers to the concept of racial superiority from long before Jim Crow. They were the founders of phrenologyat the time of the American Revolution. They preceded Darwin’s work, and were ready to hit the ground running with the “social Darwinism” bastardization of his theories.

[Governor Dinwiddie]

Under the old laws, these horrors were unheard of. The old laws were made
to protect the helpless from racist predators and vultures preying upon White women.

[Fury]

-Specifically-, what laws are you referring to?

[ProgressingAmerica]

Wow, I agree with you.

People tell me all the time that I overreact to The 1619 Project.

No. I under-react to it actually. Mamdani threw the race card on Margaret Sanger - we all know what THAT is a reference to.