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1 posted on 11/20/2025 2:17:25 PM PST by Java4Jay
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What’s there to know? The plane crashed.


2 posted on 11/20/2025 2:19:42 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/ups-md-11-accident-investigators-find-engine-pylon-cracks

Fatigue cracks in part of the aircraft’s left engine pylon assembly have emerged as a key factor in the Nov. 4 fatal crash of a UPS McDonnell-Douglas MD-11 Freighter (MD-11F). Investigators found cracks in the left (No. 1) engine pylon’s aft bulkhead forward and aft mount lugs, a preliminary NTSB...


7 posted on 11/20/2025 2:31:01 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people. )
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It’s possible, given the age of the model, the diminishing reserve of parts in the Arizona boneyard (and thus quality denigration of the remaining parts, given ‘save-the-worst-for-last’), the no-recovery design flaw that likely extinguished the center engine at v2 after the left engine flipped over the wing and ignited the remaining left-wing infrastructure, that another MD-11 or MD-10 will ever fly again.


8 posted on 11/20/2025 2:32:38 PM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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Here is a link to the NTSB’s preliminary analysis document:
https://www.ntsb.gov/Documents/Prelimiary%20Report%20DCA26MA024.pdf.


9 posted on 11/20/2025 2:35:46 PM PST by Ben Dover (Terrorism is a cancer that can only be cured with massive doses of radiation.)
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Same point of failure as AA’s Chicago crash

https://avm-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/pylon-to-wing-attachment.png.webp


13 posted on 11/20/2025 2:44:58 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people. )
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Some good photos of failed aft lug

What caused the UPS plane crash?

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/national/ups-plane-crash/ups-plane-crash-ntsb-report-photos-fractured-parts/417-510e3279-d4e7-4271-afbe-376f7de579d1


17 posted on 11/20/2025 3:02:49 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people. )
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So many questions to ask. Were there stress fractures on the other pylon attachment? After national inspection, how many more DC 10 and DC 11 aircraft have these fractures? Maybe this is the last time any DC 10 or DC 11s fly.
24 posted on 11/20/2025 6:56:46 PM PST by pterional
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I’ve been having deja vu:

https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/mcdonnell-douglas-dc-10-md-11-differences/

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/american-airlines-crash-chicago

https://www.code7700.com/case_study_american_airlines_191.htm


25 posted on 11/20/2025 8:22:57 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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